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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	colm@allcosts.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	keescook@chromium.org, luto@amacapital.net, wad@chromium.org,
	mingo@kernel.org, kirill@shutemov.name, dave.hansen@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 17:31:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170810153140.GB24628@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1502217914.6577.32.camel@redhat.com>

On Tue 08-08-17 14:45:14, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-08-08 at 09:52 -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 11:46:08AM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2017-08-08 at 08:19 -0700, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> > > > If the use case is fairly specific, then perhaps it makes sense
> > > > to
> > > > make MADV_WIPEONFORK not applicable (EINVAL) for mappings where
> > > > the
> > > > result is 'questionable'.
> > > 
> > > That would be a question for Florian and Colm.
> > > 
> > > If they are OK with MADV_WIPEONFORK only working on
> > > anonymous VMAs (no file mapping), that certainly could
> > > be implemented.
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, I am not sure that introducing cases
> > > where MADV_WIPEONFORK does not implement wipe-on-fork
> > > semantics would reduce user confusion...
> > 
> > It'll simply do exactly what it does today, so it won't introduce any
> > new fallback code.
> 
> Sure, but actually implementing MADV_WIPEONFORK in a
> way that turns file mapped VMAs into zero page backed
> anonymous VMAs after fork takes no more code than
> implementing it in a way that refuses to work on VMAs
> that have a file backing.
> 
> There is no complexity argument for or against either
> approach.
> 
> The big question is, what is the best for users?
> 
> Should we return -EINVAL when MADV_WIPEONFORK is called
> on a VMA that has a file backing, and only succeed on
> anonymous VMAs?

I would rather be conservative and implement the bare minimum until
there is a reasonable usecase to demand the feature for shared mappings
as well.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

      reply	other threads:[~2017-08-10 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-06 14:04 [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK riel
2017-08-06 14:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86,mpx: make mpx depend on x86-64 to free up VMA flag riel
2017-08-06 14:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK riel
2017-08-10 15:23   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:23     ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 16:36       ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-11 16:59         ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 17:07           ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-07 13:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: " Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 13:46   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 14:19     ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-10 13:06       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 14:59     ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-09  9:59       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-08-09 12:31         ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-09 12:42         ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-10 13:05       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 13:23         ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2017-08-10 15:36           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <CAAF6GDeno6RpHf1KORVSxUL7M-CQfbWFFdyKK8LAWd_6PcJ55Q@mail.gmail.com>
2017-08-10 17:01               ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 22:09                 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2017-08-11 14:06                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 14:11                     ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-11 14:24                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:24                         ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-11 15:31                           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <CAAF6GDcNoDUaDSxV6N12A_bOzo8phRUX5b8-OBteuN0AmeCv0g@mail.gmail.com>
2017-08-07 16:02       ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2017-08-10 13:21       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 14:11         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 18:23 ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-08  9:58   ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-08 13:15     ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-08 15:19       ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-08 15:22         ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-08 15:46         ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-08 16:48           ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2017-08-08 16:52           ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-08-08 18:45             ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-10 15:31               ` Michal Hocko [this message]

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