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From: Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	mingo@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	peterz@infradead.org, walken@google.com, kirill@shutemov.name,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, willy@infradead.org,
	npiggin@gmail.com, kernel-team@lge.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/14] lockdep: Implement crossrelease feature
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 17:06:23 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170816080622.GU20323@X58A-UD3R> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170816071421.GT20323@X58A-UD3R>

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 04:14:21PM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 01:58:08PM +0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > I'm not sure this caused the lockdep warning but, if they belongs to the
> > > same class even though they couldn't be the same instance as you said, I
> > > also think that is another problem and should be fixed.
> > > 
> > 
> > My point was more like this is a false positive case, which we should
> > avoid as hard as we can, because this very case doesn't look like a
> > deadlock to me.
> > 
> > Maybe the pattern above does exist in current kernel, but we need to
> > guide/adjust lockdep to find the real case showing it's happening.
> 
> As long as they are initialized as a same class, there's no way to
> distinguish between them within lockdep.
> 
> And I also think we should avoid false positive cases. Do you think
> there are many places where completions are initialized in a same place
> even though they could never be the same instance?
> 
> If no, it would be better to fix it whenever we face it, as you did.

BTW, of course, the same problem would have occured when applying
lockdep for the first time. How did you solve it?

I mean that lockdep basically identifies classes even for typical locks
with the call site. So two locks could be the same class even though
they should not be the same. Of course, for now, we avoid the problemaic
cases with sub-class. Anyway, the problems certainly would have arised
for the first time. I want to follow that solution you did.

Thanks,
Byungchul

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-16  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-07  7:12 [PATCH v8 00/14] lockdep: Implement crossrelease feature Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 01/14] lockdep: Refactor lookup_chain_cache() Byungchul Park
2017-08-10 12:18   ` [tip:locking/core] locking/lockdep: " tip-bot for Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 02/14] lockdep: Add a function building a chain between two classes Byungchul Park
2017-08-10 12:18   ` [tip:locking/core] locking/lockdep: " tip-bot for Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 03/14] lockdep: Change the meaning of check_prev_add()'s return value Byungchul Park
2017-08-10 12:19   ` [tip:locking/core] locking/lockdep: " tip-bot for Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 04/14] lockdep: Make check_prev_add() able to handle external stack_trace Byungchul Park
2017-08-10 12:19   ` [tip:locking/core] locking/lockdep: " tip-bot for Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 05/14] lockdep: Implement crossrelease feature Byungchul Park
2017-08-09 14:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10  1:30     ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-10  9:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10 12:19   ` [tip:locking/core] locking/lockdep: Implement the 'crossrelease' feature tip-bot for Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 06/14] lockdep: Detect and handle hist_lock ring buffer overwrite Byungchul Park
2017-08-09 14:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10  1:32     ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-10  9:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10 10:32     ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-10 11:59   ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-10 12:11     ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-10 12:51       ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-10 13:17         ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-11  0:44           ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-11  3:43           ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-11  8:03             ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-11  8:52               ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-11  9:44                 ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-11 13:06                   ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-14  7:05                     ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-14  7:22                       ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-14  7:29                       ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-11  0:40         ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-11  1:03           ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-10 12:20   ` [tip:locking/core] locking/lockdep: " tip-bot for Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 07/14] lockdep: Handle non(or multi)-acquisition of a crosslock Byungchul Park
2017-08-10 12:20   ` [tip:locking/core] locking/lockdep: " tip-bot for Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 08/14] lockdep: Make print_circular_bug() aware of crossrelease Byungchul Park
2017-08-10 12:21   ` [tip:locking/core] locking/lockdep: " tip-bot for Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 09/14] lockdep: Apply crossrelease to completions Byungchul Park
2017-08-07 10:20   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-07 11:45   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-09  9:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-09 10:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10  1:24       ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-10 12:21   ` [tip:locking/core] locking/lockdep: " tip-bot for Byungchul Park
2017-08-14  8:50   ` [PATCH v8 09/14] lockdep: " Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-18 23:43     ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-19 12:51       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-19 13:34         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-23 14:43           ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-20  3:18         ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 10/14] pagemap.h: Remove trailing white space Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 11/14] lockdep: Apply crossrelease to PG_locked locks Byungchul Park
2017-08-07 10:36   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-10  1:35   ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-10  9:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05  1:03   ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v8 12/14] lockdep: Apply lock_acquire(release) on __Set(__Clear)PageLocked Byungchul Park
2017-08-07  7:13 ` [PATCH v8 13/14] lockdep: Move data of CONFIG_LOCKDEP_PAGELOCK from page to page_ext Byungchul Park
2017-08-07 10:43   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-07  7:13 ` [PATCH v8 14/14] lockdep: Crossrelease feature documentation Byungchul Park
2017-08-07 15:58   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-10 12:22   ` [tip:locking/core] locking/lockdep: Add 'crossrelease' " tip-bot for Byungchul Park
2017-08-09 15:50 ` [PATCH v8 00/14] lockdep: Implement crossrelease feature Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10  0:55   ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-10  3:47     ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-10 10:52     ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-10  9:37   ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-10 10:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10 11:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-08-10 11:45   ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-14 10:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-08-14 11:10       ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-15  8:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-08-16  0:16   ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-16  4:05     ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-16  4:37       ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-16  5:40         ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-16  6:37           ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-16  5:05       ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-16  5:58         ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-16  7:14           ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-16  8:06             ` Byungchul Park [this message]
2017-08-16  9:38               ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-17  7:48       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-08-17  8:04         ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-17  8:12           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-08-17  8:33             ` Boqun Feng

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