From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/14] sched/core: uclamp: extend sched_setattr to support utilization clamping
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 13:14:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180813121441.GC2605@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180807095905.GB2288@localhost.localdomain>
On 07-Aug 11:59, Juri Lelli wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Minor comments below.
>
> On 06/08/18 17:39, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > + *
> > + * Task Utilization Attributes
> > + * ===========================
> > + *
> > + * A subset of sched_attr attributes allows to specify the utilization which
> > + * should be expected by a task. These attributes allows to inform the
> ^
> allow
>
> > + * scheduler about the utilization boundaries within which is safe to schedule
>
> Isn't all this more about providing hints than safety?
Yes, it's "just" hints... will rephrase to make it more clear.
> > + * the task. These utilization boundaries are valuable information to support
> > + * scheduler decisions on both task placement and frequencies selection.
> > + *
> > + * @sched_util_min represents the minimum utilization
> > + * @sched_util_max represents the maximum utilization
> > + *
> > + * Utilization is a value in the range [0..SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE] which
> > + * represents the percentage of CPU time used by a task when running at the
> > + * maximum frequency on the highest capacity CPU of the system. Thus, for
> > + * example, a 20% utilization task is a task running for 2ms every 10ms.
> > + *
> > + * A task with a min utilization value bigger then 0 is more likely to be
> > + * scheduled on a CPU which can provide that bandwidth.
> > + * A task with a max utilization value smaller then 1024 is more likely to be
> > + * scheduled on a CPU which do not provide more then the required bandwidth.
>
> Isn't s/bandwidth/capacity/ here, above, and in general where you use
> the term "bandwidth" more appropriate? I wonder if overloading this term
> (w.r.t. how is used with DEADLINE) might create confusion. In this case
> we are not providing any sort of guarantees, it's a hint.
Yes, you right... here we are not really granting any bandwidth but
just "improving" the bandwidth provisioning by hinting the scheduler
about a certain min/max capacity required.
The problem related to using capacity is that, from kernel space,
capacity is defined as a static quantity/property of CPUs. Still, I
think it makes sense to argue that util_{min,max} are hints on the
min/max capacity required for a task.
I'll update comments and text to avoid using bandwidth in favour of
capacity.
Cheers Patrick
--
#include <best/regards.h>
Patrick Bellasi
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-06 16:39 [PATCH v3 00/14] Add utilization clamping support Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] sched/core: uclamp: extend sched_setattr to support utilization clamping Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:50 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-09 8:39 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09 15:20 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-07 9:59 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-13 12:14 ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2018-08-13 12:27 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-07 12:35 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-09 9:14 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09 9:50 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-09 15:23 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-10 7:50 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-17 10:34 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-17 10:57 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-17 11:14 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] sched/core: uclamp: map TASK's clamp values into CPU's clamp groups Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-14 11:25 ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-08-14 15:21 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] sched/core: uclamp: add CPU's clamp groups accounting Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-14 15:44 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-14 16:49 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15 9:37 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-15 10:54 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15 10:59 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:32 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 13:37 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-16 13:45 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 14:21 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-16 15:00 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-17 11:04 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] sched/core: uclamp: update CPU's refcount on clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15 15:02 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:22 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: add utilization clamping for FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-08 13:18 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-09 15:30 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15 15:30 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:53 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: add utilization clamping for RT tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-07 13:26 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-09 15:34 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09 16:03 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 10:12 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-13 10:50 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-13 12:07 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 12:09 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 12:49 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-13 14:06 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 15:01 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 10:34 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:40 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-07 13:54 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-09 15:41 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09 15:55 ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-13 10:17 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] sched/core: uclamp: enforce last task UCLAMP_MAX Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 15:43 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 16:47 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 17:10 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 17:27 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 17:20 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] sched/core: uclamp: extend cpu's cgroup controller Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-17 12:21 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-17 14:24 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] sched/core: uclamp: propagate parent clamps Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 9:09 ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-08-16 14:07 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-17 13:43 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-17 14:45 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-17 15:50 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-20 10:01 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-20 12:28 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] sched/core: uclamp: map TG's clamp values into CPU's clamp groups Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] sched/core: uclamp: use TG's clamps to restrict Task's clamps Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] sched/core: uclamp: add system default clamps Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 9:13 ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-08-16 14:37 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-20 10:18 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-20 12:27 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] sched/core: uclamp: update CPU's refcount on TG's clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] sched/core: uclamp: use percentage clamp values Patrick Bellasi
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