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From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/14] sched/core: uclamp: propagate parent clamps
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 15:45:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180817144540.GL2960@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <804c7937-2c47-0781-9c53-a8ef8eb04530@arm.com>

On 17-Aug 15:43, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 08/06/2018 06:39 PM, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> >In order to properly support hierarchical resources control, the cgroup
> >delegation model requires that attribute writes from a child group never
> >fail but still are (potentially) constrained based on parent's assigned
> >resources. This requires to properly propagate and aggregate parent
> >attributes down to its descendants.
> 
> I don't understand the reason mentioned here:
> 
> IMHO, a write to a child's (tg1/tg11) cpu.rt_runtime_us can fail if the
> value is restricted by the parents value:

Well... that's my interpretation after this discussion:

  https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20180410200514.GA793541@devbig577.frc2.facebook.com/

AFAIU, what has not to fail is a write to a parent, which wants to enforce
more restrictive constraints to child groups. Thus, if we have for example:

   tg1:         util_max=100%
   tg1/tg11:    util_max=80%

It should be possible without errors to set:

   tg1:         util_max=50%

and then enforce a 50% util_max to tg1/tg11 tasks too and eventually
use "effective" attributes to expose the effective value used at each
level of the hierarchy.

> root@juno:/sys/fs/cgroup/cpu# cat cpu.rt_*
> 1000000
> 950000
> root@juno:/sys/fs/cgroup/cpu# cat tg1/cpu.rt_*
> 1000000
> 0
> root@juno:/sys/fs/cgroup/cpu# cat tg1/tg11/cpu.rt_*
> 1000000
> 0
> root@juno:/sys/fs/cgroup/cpu# echo 950000 > tg1/tg11/cpu.rt_runtime_us
> -bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
> root@juno:/sys/fs/cgroup/cpu# echo 950000 > tg1/cpu.rt_runtime_us
> root@juno:/sys/fs/cgroup/cpu# echo 950000 > tg1/tg11/cpu.rt_runtime_us
> root@juno:/sys/fs/cgroup/cpu#

This example is using the legacy hierarcy (cgroups v1).

AFAIK the default hierarcy (cgroups v2) has a much more stricy set of
requirements for the "delegation model".

> >Let's implement this mechanism by adding a new "effective" clamp value
> >for each task group. The effective clamp value is defined as the smaller
> >value between the clamp value of a group and the effective clamp value
> >of its parent. This represent also the clamp value which is actually
> >used to clamp tasks in each task group.
> >
> >Since it can be interesting for tasks in a cgroup to know exactly what
> >is the currently propagated/enforced configuration, the effective clamp
> >values are exposed to user-space by means of a new pair of read-only
> >attributes: cpu.util.{min,max}.effective.
> 
> I assume here that the cpu.util.{min,max} of the child will not be used any
> more because the 'effective' counterparts are taken instead.

Yes, the "effective" attributes are the one used in kernel space for
the actual clamping.

However, the cpu.util.{min,max} of a child are still required as soon
as the parent relax its constraints... when we use their value to
set the "effective" value.

> I wonder if this propagation not been provided with only cpu.util.{min,max}?

In the example before, if we use the same variables we miss the
opportunity to reset:

   tg1/tg11:    util_max=80%

as soon as tg1's util_max goes back to 100%.

-- 
#include <best/regards.h>

Patrick Bellasi

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-17 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-06 16:39 [PATCH v3 00/14] Add utilization clamping support Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] sched/core: uclamp: extend sched_setattr to support utilization clamping Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:50   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-09  8:39     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09 15:20       ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-07  9:59   ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-13 12:14     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-13 12:27       ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-07 12:35   ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-09  9:14     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09  9:50       ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-09 15:23         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-10  7:50           ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-17 10:34           ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-17 10:57             ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-17 11:14               ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] sched/core: uclamp: map TASK's clamp values into CPU's clamp groups Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-14 11:25   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-08-14 15:21     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] sched/core: uclamp: add CPU's clamp groups accounting Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-14 15:44   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-14 16:49     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15  9:37       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-15 10:54         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15 10:59           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:32             ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 13:37               ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-16 13:45                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 14:21                   ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-16 15:00                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-17 11:04   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] sched/core: uclamp: update CPU's refcount on clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15 15:02   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:22     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: add utilization clamping for FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-08 13:18   ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-09 15:30     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15 15:30   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:53     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: add utilization clamping for RT tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-07 13:26   ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-09 15:34     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09 16:03       ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 10:12         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-13 10:50           ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-13 12:07           ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 12:09             ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 12:49             ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-13 14:06               ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 15:01                 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 10:34                   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:40                     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-07 13:54   ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-09 15:41     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09 15:55       ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-13 10:17         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] sched/core: uclamp: enforce last task UCLAMP_MAX Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 15:43   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 16:47     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 17:10       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 17:27         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 17:20   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] sched/core: uclamp: extend cpu's cgroup controller Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-17 12:21   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-17 14:24     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] sched/core: uclamp: propagate parent clamps Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16  9:09   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-08-16 14:07     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-17 13:43   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-17 14:45     ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2018-08-17 15:50       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-20 10:01         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-20 12:28           ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] sched/core: uclamp: map TG's clamp values into CPU's clamp groups Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] sched/core: uclamp: use TG's clamps to restrict Task's clamps Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] sched/core: uclamp: add system default clamps Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16  9:13   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-08-16 14:37     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-20 10:18   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-20 12:27     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] sched/core: uclamp: update CPU's refcount on TG's clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] sched/core: uclamp: use percentage clamp values Patrick Bellasi

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