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From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/14] sched/core: uclamp: enforce last task UCLAMP_MAX
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:47:45 +0100
Message-ID: <20180816164745.GF2960@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2366fe11-db1f-4f39-df03-960535611319@arm.com>

On 16-Aug 17:43, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 08/06/2018 06:39 PM, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> >When a util_max clamped task sleeps, its clamp constraints are removed
> >from the CPU. However, the blocked utilization on that CPU can still be
> >higher than the max clamp value enforced while that task was running.
> >This max clamp removal when a CPU is going to be idle could thus allow
> >unwanted CPU frequency increases, right while the task is not running.
> 
> So 'rq->uclamp.flags == UCLAMP_FLAG_IDLE' means CPU is IDLE because
> non-clamped tasks are tracked as well ((group_id = 0)).

Right, but... with (group_id = 0) you mean that "non-clamped tasks are
tracked" in the first clamp group?

> Maybe this is worth mentioning here?

Maybe I can explicitely say that we detect that there are not RUNNABLE
tasks because all the clamp groups are in UCLAMP_NOT_VALID status.

> >This can happen, for example, where there is another (smaller) task
> >running on a different CPU of the same frequency domain.
> >In this case, when we aggregate the utilization of all the CPUs in a
> >shared frequency domain, schedutil can still see the full non clamped
> >blocked utilization of all the CPUs and thus eventually increase the
> >frequency.
> >
> >Let's fix this by using:
> >
> >    uclamp_cpu_put_id(UCLAMP_MAX)
> >       uclamp_cpu_update(last_clamp_value)
> >
> >to detect when a CPU has no more RUNNABLE clamped tasks and to flag this
> >condition. Thus, while a CPU is idle, we can still enforce the last used
> >clamp value for it.
> >
> >To the contrary, we do not track any UCLAMP_MIN since, while a CPU is
> >idle, we don't want to enforce any minimum frequency
> >Indeed, we rely just on blocked load decay to smoothly reduce the
> >frequency.
> 
> [...]
> 
> >diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> >index bc2beedec7bf..ff76b000bbe8 100644
> >--- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> >+++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> >@@ -906,7 +906,8 @@ uclamp_group_find(int clamp_id, unsigned int clamp_value)
> >   * For the specified clamp index, this method computes the new CPU utilization
> >   * clamp to use until the next change on the set of RUNNABLE tasks on that CPU.
> >   */
> >-static inline void uclamp_cpu_update(struct rq *rq, int clamp_id)
> >+static inline void uclamp_cpu_update(struct rq *rq, int clamp_id,
> >+				     unsigned int last_clamp_value)
> >  {
> >  	struct uclamp_group *uc_grp = &rq->uclamp.group[clamp_id][0];
> >  	int max_value = UCLAMP_NOT_VALID;
> >@@ -924,6 +925,19 @@ static inline void uclamp_cpu_update(struct rq *rq, int clamp_id)
> 
> The condition:
> 
>     if (!uclamp_group_active(uc_grp, group_id))
>         continue;
> 
> in 'for (group_id = 0; group_id <= CONFIG_UCLAMP_GROUPS_COUNT; ++group_id)
> {}' makes sure that 'max_value == UCLAMP_NOT_VALID' is true for the if
> condition (*):
> 
> 
> >  		if (max_value >= SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE)
> >  			break;
> >  	}
> >+
> >+	/*
> >+	 * Just for the UCLAMP_MAX value, in case there are no RUNNABLE
> >+	 * task, we keep the CPU clamped to the last task's clamp value.
> >+	 * This avoids frequency spikes to MAX when one CPU, with an high
> >+	 * blocked utilization, sleeps and another CPU, in the same frequency
> >+	 * domain, do not see anymore the clamp on the first CPU.
> >+	 */
> >+	if (clamp_id == UCLAMP_MAX && max_value == UCLAMP_NOT_VALID) {
> >+		rq->uclamp.flags |= UCLAMP_FLAG_IDLE;
> >+		max_value = last_clamp_value;
> >+	}
> >+
> 
> (*): So the uc_grp[group_id].value stays last_clamp_value?

A bit confusing... but I think you've got the point.

> What do you do when the blocked utilization decays below this enforced
> last_clamp_value on that CPU?

This is done _just_ for max_util:
- it clamps a blocked utilization bigger then last_clamp_value
  thus avoiding the selection of an OPP bigger then the one enforced
  while the task was runnable
- it has not effect on a blocked utilization smaller then last_clamp_value
  thus allowing to reduce gracefully the OPP as long as the blocked
  utilization is decayed

> I assume there are plenty of this kind of corner cases because we have
> blocked signals (including all tasks) and clamping (including runnable
> tasks).

This is a pretty compelling one I've noticed in my tests and thus
worth a fix... I don't have on hand other similar corner cases, do
you?


-- 
#include <best/regards.h>

Patrick Bellasi

  reply index

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-06 16:39 [PATCH v3 00/14] Add utilization clamping support Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] sched/core: uclamp: extend sched_setattr to support utilization clamping Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:50   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-09  8:39     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09 15:20       ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-07  9:59   ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-13 12:14     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-13 12:27       ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-07 12:35   ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-09  9:14     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09  9:50       ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-09 15:23         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-10  7:50           ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-17 10:34           ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-17 10:57             ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-17 11:14               ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] sched/core: uclamp: map TASK's clamp values into CPU's clamp groups Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-14 11:25   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-08-14 15:21     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] sched/core: uclamp: add CPU's clamp groups accounting Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-14 15:44   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-14 16:49     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15  9:37       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-15 10:54         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15 10:59           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:32             ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 13:37               ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-16 13:45                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 14:21                   ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-16 15:00                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-17 11:04   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] sched/core: uclamp: update CPU's refcount on clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15 15:02   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:22     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: add utilization clamping for FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-08 13:18   ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-09 15:30     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-15 15:30   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:53     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: add utilization clamping for RT tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-07 13:26   ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-09 15:34     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09 16:03       ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 10:12         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-13 10:50           ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-13 12:07           ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 12:09             ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 12:49             ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-13 14:06               ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-13 15:01                 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 10:34                   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 13:40                     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-07 13:54   ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-09 15:41     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-09 15:55       ` Quentin Perret
2018-08-13 10:17         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] sched/core: uclamp: enforce last task UCLAMP_MAX Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 15:43   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 16:47     ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2018-08-16 17:10       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-16 17:27         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16 17:20   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] sched/core: uclamp: extend cpu's cgroup controller Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-17 12:21   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-17 14:24     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] sched/core: uclamp: propagate parent clamps Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16  9:09   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-08-16 14:07     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-17 13:43   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-17 14:45     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-17 15:50       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-20 10:01         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-20 12:28           ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] sched/core: uclamp: map TG's clamp values into CPU's clamp groups Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] sched/core: uclamp: use TG's clamps to restrict Task's clamps Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] sched/core: uclamp: add system default clamps Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-16  9:13   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-08-16 14:37     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-20 10:18   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-08-20 12:27     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] sched/core: uclamp: update CPU's refcount on TG's clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
2018-08-06 16:39 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] sched/core: uclamp: use percentage clamp values Patrick Bellasi

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