From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 01/15] sched/core: uclamp: Add CPU's clamp buckets refcounting
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:37:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190313113757.aeaksz5akv6y5uep@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190313081958.GA5996@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 13-Mar 09:19, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 03:50:43PM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > On 12-Mar 16:20, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 10:05:40AM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > > +/* Integer ceil-rounded range for each bucket */
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > > > +#define UCLAMP_BUCKET_DELTA ((SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE / UCLAMP_BUCKETS) + 1)
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> simply do not match.
Right, that don't match when UCLAMP_BUCKETS is a divider of
SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE, i.e. when we use 8 or 16 buckets.
> > > Uhm, should that not me ((x+y-1)/y), aka. DIV_ROUND_UP(x,y) ?
> >
> > Well, there is certainly some rounding to be done...
> >
> > > The above would give 4 for 9/3, which is clearly buggered.
> >
> > .. still the math above should work fine within the boundaries we
> > define for UCLAMP_BUCKET_DELTA (5..20 groups) and considering that
> > SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE will never be smaller then 1024.
>
> That's a very poor reason to write utter nonsense :-)
>
> > The above is designed to shrink the topmost bucket wrt all the others
> > but it will never be smaller than ~30%.
>
> 30% sounds like a lot, esp. for this range.
Well, that 30% is really just ~16 utiliation units on a scale of 1024
when buckets have a size of 52.
Still, yes, we can argue that's big but that's also the same error
generated by DIV_ROUND_UP() when UCLAMP_BUCKETS is not 8 or 16.
> > Here are the start values computed for each bucket using the math
> > above and the computed shrinking percentage for the topmost bucket:
>
> If you use a regular rounding, the error is _much_ smaller:
>
> $ for ((x=5;x<21;x++)) ; do let d=(1024+x/2)/x; let s=(x-1)*d; let e=1024-s; let p=100*(d-e)/d; echo $x $d $s $e $p%; done
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 5 205 820 204 0%
> 6 171 855 169 1%
> 7 146 876 148 -1%
> 8 128 896 128 0%
> 9 114 912 112 1%
> 10 102 918 106 -3%
> 11 93 930 94 -1%
> 12 85 935 89 -4%
> 13 79 948 76 3%
> 14 73 949 75 -2%
> 15 68 952 72 -5%
> 16 64 960 64 0%
> 17 60 960 64 -6%
> 18 57 969 55 3%
> 19 54 972 52 3%
> 20 51 969 55 -7%
>
> Funnily enough, we have a helper for that too: DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST().
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is different than DIV_ROUND_UP() and actually better across the
full range.
> Now, if we go further, the error will obviously increase because we run
> out of precision, but even there, regular rounding will be better than
> either floor or ceil.
I don't think we will have to cover other values in the further but I
agree that this "closest rounding" is definitively better.
Thanks for spotting it, will update in v8.
--
#include <best/regards.h>
Patrick Bellasi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-13 11:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-08 10:05 [PATCH v7 00/15] Add utilization clamping support Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 01/15] sched/core: uclamp: Add CPU's clamp buckets refcounting Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-12 12:52 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-03-13 15:15 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 21:01 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-03-14 14:54 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-14 15:00 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-12 15:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-12 15:50 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 8:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 11:37 ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2019-03-13 13:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 16:12 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 17:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 18:22 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 19:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-14 12:13 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-14 13:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-14 15:07 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-14 19:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 13:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 15:59 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 19:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-14 11:03 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-14 13:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 19:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-14 11:18 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 21:23 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-03-14 12:43 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 14:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 15:28 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 15:23 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 19:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 21:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-03-14 12:22 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-14 11:45 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 21:32 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-03-14 14:46 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-14 15:29 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-03-14 15:40 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-14 16:39 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 02/15] sched/core: uclamp: Enforce last task UCLAMP_MAX Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 14:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 16:20 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 17:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 18:29 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 14:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 16:16 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-14 0:29 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-03-14 17:06 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 03/15] sched/core: uclamp: Add system default clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 14:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 17:09 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 19:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 20:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-15 13:41 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 20:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-13 20:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-18 12:18 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-18 13:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-18 14:21 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-18 14:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 04/15] sched/core: Allow sched_setattr() to use the current policy Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 05/15] sched/core: uclamp: Extend sched_setattr() to support utilization clamping Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 06/15] sched/core: uclamp: Reset uclamp values on RESET_ON_FORK Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-13 20:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-18 12:58 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 07/15] sched/core: uclamp: Set default clamps for RT tasks Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 08/15] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: Add clamps for FAIR and " Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 09/15] sched/core: uclamp: Add uclamp_util_with() Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 10/15] sched/fair: uclamp: Add uclamp support to energy_compute() Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-06 17:21 ` Quentin Perret
2019-03-18 15:19 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 11/15] sched/core: uclamp: Extend CPU's cgroup controller Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-14 15:48 ` Tejun Heo
2019-03-19 10:00 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 12/15] sched/core: uclamp: Propagate parent clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-14 16:17 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-03-18 16:54 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-03-18 16:58 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 13/15] sched/core: uclamp: Propagate system defaults to root group Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 14/15] sched/core: uclamp: Use TG's clamps to restrict TASK's clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-02-08 10:05 ` [PATCH v7 15/15] sched/core: uclamp: Update CPU's refcount on TG's clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20190313113757.aeaksz5akv6y5uep@e110439-lin \
--to=patrick.bellasi@arm.com \
--cc=dietmar.eggemann@arm.com \
--cc=joelaf@google.com \
--cc=juri.lelli@redhat.com \
--cc=linux-api@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-pm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=morten.rasmussen@arm.com \
--cc=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=pjt@google.com \
--cc=quentin.perret@arm.com \
--cc=rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com \
--cc=smuckle@google.com \
--cc=surenb@google.com \
--cc=tj@kernel.org \
--cc=tkjos@google.com \
--cc=vincent.guittot@linaro.org \
--cc=viresh.kumar@linaro.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).