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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] rcu: Directly lock rdp->nocb_lock on nocb code entrypoints
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 16:21:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200610232142.GA4455@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200610221245.GA3833@lenoir>

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:12:46AM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 07:02:10AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > And just to argue against myself...
> > 
> > Another approach is to maintain explicit multiple states for each
> > ->cblist, perhaps something like this:
> > 
> > 1.	In softirq.  Transition code advances to next.
> > 2.	To no-CB 1.  Either GP or CB kthread for the transitioning
> > 	CPU advances to next.  Note that the fact that the
> > 	transition code runs on the transitioning CPU means that
> > 	the RCU softirq handler doesn't need to be involved.
> > 3.	To no-CB 2.  Either GP or CB kthread for the transitioning
> > 	CPU advances to next.
> 
> Just to clarify, if GP has set NO_CB2 in (2), we want CB to set NO_CB3
> in 3), right? OTOH if CB has set NO_CB2 in (2), we want GP to set NO_CB3
> in (3), right?
> 
> The point being to make sure that both threads acknowledge the transition?

Exactly!

> > 4.	To no-CB 3.  Transitioning code advances to next.
> > 	At this point, the no-CBs setup is fully functional.
> 
> And softirq can stop processing callbacks from that point on.

You got it!

> > 5.	No-CB.  Transitioning code advances to next.
> > 	Again, the fact that the transitioning code is running
> > 	on the transitioning CPU with interrupts disabled means
> > 	that the RCU softirq handler need not be explicitly
> > 	involved.
> > 6.	To softirq 1.  The RCU softirq handler for the transitioning
> > 	CPU advances to next.
> > 	At this point, the RCU softirq handler is processing callbacks.
> > 7.	To softirq 2.  Either GP or CB kthread for the transitioning
> > 	CPU advances to next.
> > 	At this point, the softirq handler is processing callbacks.
> 
> SOFTIRQ2 should be part of what happens in SOFTIRQ1. The transitioning
> CPU sets SOFTIRQ1, which is immediately visible by local softirqs,
> and wakes up CB/GP. CB/GP sets SOFTIRQ2, CB/GP sets SOFTIRQ3 and
> we go back to transitioning code that sets IN_SOFTIRQ.
> 
> Or did I miss something?

I was perhaps being overly paranoid.  You might well be right.

> > 8.	To softirq 3.  Either GP or CB kthread for the transitioning
> > 	CPU advances to next.
> > 	At this point, the no-CBs setup is fully shut down.
> > 9.	To softirq 4.  Transitioning code advances to next,
> > 	which is the first, "In softirq".
> > 	(This one -might- be unnecessary, but...)
> > 
> > All transitions are of course with the ->nocb_lock held.
> > 
> > When there is only one CPU during early boot near rcu_init() time,
> > the transition from "In softirq" to "No-CB" can remain be instantaneous.
> > 
> > This has the advantage of not slowing things down just because there
> > is an RCU callback flood in progress.  It also uses an explicit
> > protocol that should (give or take bugs) maintain full safety both
> > in protection of ->cblist and in dealing with RCU callback floods.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> 
> Agreed. And I really like that it details the whole process in a very
> explicit way.
> 
> Thanks!

Glad you like it!  And of course please adjust it as needed, up to and
including doing something completely different that works better.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-10 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-13 16:47 [PATCH 00/10] rcu: Allow a CPU to leave and reenter NOCB state Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 01/10] rcu: Directly lock rdp->nocb_lock on nocb code entrypoints Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-20 12:29   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-22 17:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 15:21       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 16:29         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 20:18           ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 21:09             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 21:27               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 22:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-27  0:45                   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-27  0:58                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-04 11:41       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-04 16:36         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-08 12:57           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-09 18:02             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-10 13:12               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-10 14:02                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-10 22:12                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-10 23:21                     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-06-11  1:32                       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 02/10] rcu: Use direct rdp->nocb_lock operations on local calls Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 03/10] rcu: Make locking explicit in do_nocb_deferred_wakeup_common() Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-26 19:54   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 19:59   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 04/10] rcu: Implement rcu_segcblist_is_offloaded() config dependent Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:20   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:03     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 05/10] rcu: Remove useless conditional nocb unlock Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 06/10] rcu: Make nocb_cb kthread parkable Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-11  1:34   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 07/10] rcu: Temporarily assume that nohz full CPUs might not be NOCB Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:25   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:08     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:50       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:49         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 08/10] rcu: Allow to deactivate nocb on a CPU Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:38   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 22:45     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:30         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 22:47           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:55             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-26 21:20   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 22:49     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-04 13:10       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-11  1:32         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-11 17:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-04 13:14     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 09/10] rcu: Allow to re-offload a CPU that used to be nocb Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:41   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 10/10] rcu: Nocb (de)activate through sysfs Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:42   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:23     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 18:15 ` [PATCH 00/10] rcu: Allow a CPU to leave and reenter NOCB state Paul E. McKenney

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