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From: Stephen Satchell <satch@fluent-access.com>
To: Martin Devera <devik@cdi.cz>, bert hubert <ahu@ds9a.nl>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Threads are processes that share more
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:08:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010620150729.00b60710@mail.fluent-access.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10106202036470.10363-100000@luxik.cdi.cz>
In-Reply-To: <20010620175937.A8159@home.ds9a.nl>

At 08:48 PM 6/20/01 +0200, Martin Devera wrote:
>BTW is not possible to implement threads as subset of process ?
>Like thread list pointed to from task_struct. It'd contain
>thread_structs plus another scheduler's data.
>The thread could be much smaller than process.
>
>Probably there is another problem I don't see, I'm just
>currious whether can it work like this ..

Threads would then run, as a group, at the priority of the process, and 
then by priority within the process thread group.  To be truely useful, 
threads need to be able to have their run priority divorced from the 
priority of the spawning process.

By the way, I'm surprised no one has mentioned that a synonym for "thread" 
is "lightweight process".

Satch


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-06-20 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-19 14:53 accounting for threads Dan Kegel
2001-06-19 14:57 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-19 15:44 ` ognen
2001-06-19 15:58   ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Dan Kegel
2001-06-19 16:02     ` Ben Pfaff
2001-06-19 16:09     ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 16:26       ` Matthew Kirkwood
2001-06-19 16:52         ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 18:18           ` Rob Landley
2001-06-19 23:31           ` Timur Tabi
2001-06-20 11:52             ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 21:20               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-06-20 18:12                 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 23:28                   ` Dan Podeanu
2001-06-21  0:42                   ` D. Stimits
2001-06-20 20:18                     ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21  1:57                       ` D. Stimits
2001-06-21 14:46                         ` Idea: Patches-from-linus mailing list? (Was Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)) Rob Landley
2001-06-21 14:02                   ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Jesse Pollard
2001-06-21 14:18                     ` Rob Landley
2001-06-22 14:46               ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-06-22 13:29                 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-24 21:41                   ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 16:55                     ` Rob Landley
2001-06-24 22:30                       ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 18:21                         ` Rob Landley
2001-06-25 13:48                           ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 22:39                         ` Steven Walter
2001-06-24 23:50                         ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-24 20:24                           ` Rob Landley
2001-06-25  0:05                           ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-25  0:32                             ` Gerhard Mack
2001-06-25  0:59                               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-25  2:18                         ` Galen Hancock
2001-06-20 14:59           ` Matthias Urlichs
2001-06-20 19:14           ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-06-20 21:01           ` RE:Why use threads ( was: Alan Cox quote?) David Schwartz
2001-06-20 21:26             ` Why " Victor Yodaiken
2001-06-20 22:18               ` David Schwartz
2001-06-20 22:41                 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-20 22:47                   ` [OT] " Jeff Garzik
2001-06-21  0:21                   ` David Schwartz
2001-06-21  0:56                     ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-21  1:32                       ` David Schwartz
2001-06-21  2:22                         ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-21  2:43                           ` David Schwartz
2001-06-21 16:10                             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-21 19:55                               ` Marco Colombo
2001-06-20 22:43                 ` Mike Castle
2001-06-21  1:43                   ` David Schwartz
2001-06-19 17:10       ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Matti Aarnio
2001-06-19 17:20       ` Mike Castle
2001-06-19 17:37         ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 17:45           ` Mike Castle
2001-06-19 19:38             ` Georg Nikodym
2001-06-19 19:56               ` Michael Meissner
2001-06-19 17:53           ` Steve Underwood
2001-06-19 19:01             ` Alan Cox
2001-06-20  2:57               ` Michael Rothwell
2001-06-20  3:04                 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20  3:38                   ` John R Lenton
2001-06-20 10:21                   ` john slee
2001-06-20 18:08                     ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20 16:21                   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-20  9:14                 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-22  2:36                   ` Michael Rothwell
2001-06-19 18:08           ` Georg Nikodym
2001-06-19 20:57       ` David S. Miller
2001-06-19 21:15         ` David S. Miller
2001-06-20  0:04         ` Chris Ricker
2001-06-20  0:59           ` Robert Love
2001-06-19 17:36     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-19 17:41       ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 21:11       ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-19 23:56         ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-20  0:19           ` Mike Castle
2001-06-20  0:28             ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20  1:30               ` Ben Greear
2001-06-20  2:14                 ` Mike Castle
2001-06-20  9:00               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 11:25                 ` [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java Aaron Lehmann
2001-06-20 11:25                   ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 17:36                     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-06-20 19:27                       ` Mike Harrold
2001-06-20 17:46                         ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 19:53                         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-06-20 17:53                           ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21  7:45                             ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-06-20 20:16                         ` Pete Zaitcev
2001-06-20 22:05                           ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                     ` <20010621000725.A24672@werewolf.able.es>
2001-06-20 19:15                       ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21  3:13                       ` Pete Zaitcev
2001-06-21 13:59                         ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21  9:40                       ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-21 16:48                     ` Adam Sampson
2001-06-20 15:12                   ` Ben Greear
2001-06-20 15:44                     ` Russell Leighton
2001-06-20 16:32                       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-20 16:54                         ` Russell Leighton
2001-06-20 17:03                         ` Tony Hoyle
2001-06-20 15:10                           ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 20:23                             ` Tony Hoyle
2001-06-21  8:12                               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 20:40                             ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-06-20 20:48                               ` Tony Hoyle
2001-06-20 21:00                               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 21:06                                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-06-20 18:14                         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 16:53                     ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20 12:36                       ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 21:14                     ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-06-20 18:09                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 19:05                   ` William T Wilson
2001-06-19 16:02   ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) David S. Miller
2001-06-19 16:12     ` Padraig Brady
2001-06-19 19:10     ` bert hubert
2001-06-19 19:18       ` Alan Cox
2001-06-19 19:32         ` bert hubert
2001-06-19 19:43         ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-20 15:22         ` Jes Sorensen
2001-06-20 15:33           ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-20 15:59             ` Threads are processes that share more bert hubert
2001-06-20 16:15               ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-20 18:48               ` Martin Devera
2001-06-20 19:19                 ` Unknown PCI Net Device Greg Ingram
2001-06-20 22:53                   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-06-20 22:56                     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-20 23:00                     ` Alan Cox
2001-06-20 22:08               ` Stephen Satchell [this message]
2001-06-20 22:14                 ` Threads are processes that share more ognen
2001-06-20 23:10                 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 23:47                   ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-25  2:23                   ` David S. Miller
2001-06-20 16:39             ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) george anzinger
2001-06-20 18:35               ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-21  4:11                 ` Rusty Russell
2001-06-21 23:37                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-21 23:55                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-22 14:53                     ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-20 16:40             ` Jes Sorensen
2001-06-20 20:09             ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 19:05         ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-06-20 14:35       ` Mike Porter
2001-06-20 11:56         ` Rob Landley
2001-06-19 18:01   ` Alan Cox quote? Kai Henningsen
2001-06-19 18:49     ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 20:12     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-19 21:12     ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-19 22:50       ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen

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