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From: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
To: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: Why use threads ( was: Alan Cox quote?)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:56:13 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <XFMail.20010620175613.davidel@xmailserver.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <NCBBLIEPOCNJOAEKBEAKEEOHPPAA.davids@webmaster.com>


On 21-Jun-2001 David Schwartz wrote:
> 
>> On 20-Jun-2001 David Schwartz wrote:
> 
>> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 02:01:16PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote:
> 
>> >> >    It's very hard to use processes for this purpose. Consider,
>> >> > for example, a
>> >> > web server. You don't want to use one process for each client
>> >> > because that
>> >> > would limit your scalability (16,000 clients would become
>> >> > difficult, and
>> >> > with threads it's trivial). You don't want to use one thread
>> >> > for each client
> 
>> >> How is it trivial? How do you debug a 16,000 thread application?
> 
>> > As I said, you don't want to use one thread for each
>> > client. You use,
>> > say, 10 threads for the 16,000 clients.
> 
>> Humm, you're going to select() over 1600 fds ...
> 
>       Who said anything about 'select'? If you want to learn how to write
> efficient multi-threaded servers, take a course or read a book. Heck, you
> can even ask me questions on marginally appropriate lists or even by private
> email. But don't put words in my mouth.

I was just thinking about having a course on how to write mt applications,
are You currently keeping such courses ?
Is still this Your address :

David Schwartz
16000 NW Modesty Dr



How do you handle an average of 1600 sessions over a single process without
using select()/poll(), I'm just curious ?




- Davide


  reply	other threads:[~2001-06-21  0:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-19 14:53 accounting for threads Dan Kegel
2001-06-19 14:57 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-19 15:44 ` ognen
2001-06-19 15:58   ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Dan Kegel
2001-06-19 16:02     ` Ben Pfaff
2001-06-19 16:09     ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 16:26       ` Matthew Kirkwood
2001-06-19 16:52         ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 18:18           ` Rob Landley
2001-06-19 23:31           ` Timur Tabi
2001-06-20 11:52             ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 21:20               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-06-20 18:12                 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 23:28                   ` Dan Podeanu
2001-06-21  0:42                   ` D. Stimits
2001-06-20 20:18                     ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21  1:57                       ` D. Stimits
2001-06-21 14:46                         ` Idea: Patches-from-linus mailing list? (Was Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)) Rob Landley
2001-06-21 14:02                   ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Jesse Pollard
2001-06-21 14:18                     ` Rob Landley
2001-06-22 14:46               ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-06-22 13:29                 ` Rob Landley
2001-06-24 21:41                   ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 16:55                     ` Rob Landley
2001-06-24 22:30                       ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 18:21                         ` Rob Landley
2001-06-25 13:48                           ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 22:39                         ` Steven Walter
2001-06-24 23:50                         ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-24 20:24                           ` Rob Landley
2001-06-25  0:05                           ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-25  0:32                             ` Gerhard Mack
2001-06-25  0:59                               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-25  2:18                         ` Galen Hancock
2001-06-20 14:59           ` Matthias Urlichs
2001-06-20 19:14           ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-06-20 21:01           ` RE:Why use threads ( was: Alan Cox quote?) David Schwartz
2001-06-20 21:26             ` Why " Victor Yodaiken
2001-06-20 22:18               ` David Schwartz
2001-06-20 22:41                 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-20 22:47                   ` [OT] " Jeff Garzik
2001-06-21  0:21                   ` David Schwartz
2001-06-21  0:56                     ` Davide Libenzi [this message]
2001-06-21  1:32                       ` David Schwartz
2001-06-21  2:22                         ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-21  2:43                           ` David Schwartz
2001-06-21 16:10                             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-21 19:55                               ` Marco Colombo
2001-06-20 22:43                 ` Mike Castle
2001-06-21  1:43                   ` David Schwartz
2001-06-19 17:10       ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) Matti Aarnio
2001-06-19 17:20       ` Mike Castle
2001-06-19 17:37         ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 17:45           ` Mike Castle
2001-06-19 19:38             ` Georg Nikodym
2001-06-19 19:56               ` Michael Meissner
2001-06-19 17:53           ` Steve Underwood
2001-06-19 19:01             ` Alan Cox
2001-06-20  2:57               ` Michael Rothwell
2001-06-20  3:04                 ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20  3:38                   ` John R Lenton
2001-06-20 10:21                   ` john slee
2001-06-20 18:08                     ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20 16:21                   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-20  9:14                 ` Alan Cox
2001-06-22  2:36                   ` Michael Rothwell
2001-06-19 18:08           ` Georg Nikodym
2001-06-19 20:57       ` David S. Miller
2001-06-19 21:15         ` David S. Miller
2001-06-20  0:04         ` Chris Ricker
2001-06-20  0:59           ` Robert Love
2001-06-19 17:36     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-19 17:41       ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 21:11       ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-19 23:56         ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-06-20  0:19           ` Mike Castle
2001-06-20  0:28             ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20  1:30               ` Ben Greear
2001-06-20  2:14                 ` Mike Castle
2001-06-20  9:00               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 11:25                 ` [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java Aaron Lehmann
2001-06-20 11:25                   ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 17:36                     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-06-20 19:27                       ` Mike Harrold
2001-06-20 17:46                         ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 19:53                         ` Martin Dalecki
2001-06-20 17:53                           ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21  7:45                             ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-06-20 20:16                         ` Pete Zaitcev
2001-06-20 22:05                           ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                     ` <20010621000725.A24672@werewolf.able.es>
2001-06-20 19:15                       ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21  3:13                       ` Pete Zaitcev
2001-06-21 13:59                         ` Rob Landley
2001-06-21  9:40                       ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-21 16:48                     ` Adam Sampson
2001-06-20 15:12                   ` Ben Greear
2001-06-20 15:44                     ` Russell Leighton
2001-06-20 16:32                       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-06-20 16:54                         ` Russell Leighton
2001-06-20 17:03                         ` Tony Hoyle
2001-06-20 15:10                           ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 20:23                             ` Tony Hoyle
2001-06-21  8:12                               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 20:40                             ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-06-20 20:48                               ` Tony Hoyle
2001-06-20 21:00                               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-06-20 21:06                                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-06-20 18:14                         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 16:53                     ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-20 12:36                       ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 21:14                     ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-06-20 18:09                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-20 19:05                   ` William T Wilson
2001-06-19 16:02   ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) David S. Miller
2001-06-19 16:12     ` Padraig Brady
2001-06-19 19:10     ` bert hubert
2001-06-19 19:18       ` Alan Cox
2001-06-19 19:32         ` bert hubert
2001-06-19 19:43         ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-20 15:22         ` Jes Sorensen
2001-06-20 15:33           ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-20 15:59             ` Threads are processes that share more bert hubert
2001-06-20 16:15               ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-20 18:48               ` Martin Devera
2001-06-20 19:19                 ` Unknown PCI Net Device Greg Ingram
2001-06-20 22:53                   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-06-20 22:56                     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-06-20 23:00                     ` Alan Cox
2001-06-20 22:08               ` Threads are processes that share more Stephen Satchell
2001-06-20 22:14                 ` ognen
2001-06-20 23:10                 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-06-24 23:47                   ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-25  2:23                   ` David S. Miller
2001-06-20 16:39             ` Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads) george anzinger
2001-06-20 18:35               ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-21  4:11                 ` Rusty Russell
2001-06-21 23:37                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-21 23:55                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-06-22 14:53                     ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-20 16:40             ` Jes Sorensen
2001-06-20 20:09             ` Rob Landley
2001-06-20 19:05         ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-06-20 14:35       ` Mike Porter
2001-06-20 11:56         ` Rob Landley
2001-06-19 18:01   ` Alan Cox quote? Kai Henningsen
2001-06-19 18:49     ` Larry McVoy
2001-06-19 20:12     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-06-19 21:12     ` Richard Gooch
2001-06-19 22:50       ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen

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