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From: Vitaly Wool <vwool@ru.mvista.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dpervushin@gmail.com,
	akpm@osdl.org, basicmark@yahoo.com, komal_shah802003@yahoo.com,
	stephen@streetfiresound.com,
	spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net, Joachim_Jaeger@digi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:50:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43A0230B.1040904@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051213191531.GA13751@kroah.com>

Greg KH wrote:

>On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:01:01AM -0800, David Brownell wrote:
>  
>
>>It's way better to just insist that all I/O buffers (in all
>>generic APIs) be DMA-safe.  AFAICT that's a pretty standard
>>rule everywhere in Linux.
>>    
>>
>
>I agree.
>  
>
Well, why then David doesn't insist on that in his own code?
His synchronous transfer functions are allocating transfer buffers on 
stack which is not DMA-safe.
Then he starts messing with allocate-or-use-preallocated stuff etc. etc.
Why isn't he just kmalloc'ing/kfree'ing buffers each time these 
functions are called (as he proposes for upper layer drivers to do)?
That's a significant inconsistency. Is it also the thing you agree with?

And they way he does it implies redundant memcpy's and kmalloc's: 
suppose we have two controller drivers working in two threads and 
calling write_then_read in such a way that the one called later has to 
allocate a new buffer. Suppose also that both controller drivers are 
working in *PIO* mode. In this situation you have one redundant kmalloc 
and two redundant memcpy's, not speaking about overhead brought up by 
mutexes.

The thing is that only controller driver is aware whether DMA is needed 
or not, so it's controller driver that should work it out.
Requesting all the buffers to be DMA-safe will make a significant 
performance drop on all small transfers!

Vitaly

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-14 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-12 15:20 [PATCH 2.6-git 0/4] SPI core refresh Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:22 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 1/4] SPI core refresh: SPI core patch Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:49   ` Russell King
2005-12-12 15:24 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 2/4] SPI core refresh: MTD dataflash driver Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:26 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 3/4] SPI core refresh: SPI/PNX controller Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 4/4] SPI core refresh: dumb EEPROM driver Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 18:01 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 0/4] SPI core refresh Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 12:09   ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-13 15:11     ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 17:06       ` dmitry pervushin
2005-12-14  6:57       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 14:28         ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 16:35     ` David Brownell
2005-12-13 18:02       ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 14:06 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 16:53   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog " Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 19:01     ` David Brownell
2005-12-13 19:15       ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 13:50         ` Vitaly Wool [this message]
2005-12-14 17:18           ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 17:53             ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 18:50               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:29                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:02               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:19                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:33                   ` [spi-devel-general] Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:34                 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15  6:47                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 16:44                   ` Greg KH
2005-12-15 22:23                     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 23:02                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-16  8:37                         ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-16 17:34                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-16 18:32                             ` [spi-devel-general] Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-15 20:06                   ` David Brownell
2005-12-15 22:17                     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 22:33                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-16  3:34                         ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-16  5:17                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 19:16               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Greg KH
2005-12-14 19:30                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 10:00               ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-14 17:22           ` David Brownell
2005-12-14 17:50             ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:17               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 20:11                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 21:47       ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 22:15       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 16:55         ` David Brownell
2005-12-14 17:23           ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 18:48   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library " Stephen Street
2005-12-14 19:41     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 21:19       ` Stephen Street
2005-12-14 19:31   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library David Brownell
2005-12-15 12:19   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: async message handing library update Vitaly Wool
2005-12-18 18:59     ` David Brownell
2005-12-19 15:40       ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-20  7:23         ` David Brownell
2005-12-20 18:02       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-22 17:28         ` David Brownell
2005-12-22 22:10           ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-22 23:55             ` David Brownell
2005-12-21 13:17       ` Vitaly Wool

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