From: Vitaly Wool <vwool@ru.mvista.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dpervushin@gmail.com,
akpm@osdl.org, basicmark@yahoo.com, komal_shah802003@yahoo.com,
stephen@streetfiresound.com,
spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net, Joachim_Jaeger@digi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:37:46 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43A27CDA.4020304@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051215230217.GA11880@kroah.com>
Greg KH wrote:
>On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 01:23:32AM +0300, Vitaly Wool wrote:
>
>
>>Greg KH wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:47:42AM +0300, Vitaly Wool wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>David Brownell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>No, "stupid drivers will suffer"; nothing new. Just observe
>>>>>how the ads7846 touchscreen driver does small async transfers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>One cannot allocate memory in interrupt context, so the way to go is
>>>>allocating it on stack, thus the buffer is not DMA-safe.
>>>>Making it DMA-safe in thread that does the very message processing is a
>>>>good way of overcoming this.
>>>>Using preallocated buffer is not a good way, since it may well be
>>>>already used by another interrupt or not yet processed by the worker
>>>>thread (or tasklet, or whatever).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Yes it is a good way. That's the way USB currently works in the kernel,
>>>and it works just fine. It keeps the rules simple and everyone knows
>>>what needs to be done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Looking at my usbnet stuff, I can't share that opinion :-/
>>Are you really ready to lower the performance and quality of service
>>just for approach uniformity?
>>
>>
>
>What performance issues? As an example, USB has this rule, and we can
>saturate a 480Mbit line with a _userspace_ driver (loads of memcopy
>calles involved there.)
>
>
What CPU is used there? I guess it's not 144 MHz ARM ;-)
>
>
>>And, can you please point me out the examples of devices behind USB bus
>>that need to write registers from an interrupt context?
>>
>>
>
>usb to serial drivers need to allocate buffers for their write functions
>as they can be called in irq context from a tty line dicipline, which
>causes a USB packet to be dynamically created and sent to the USB core.
>I also think the USB network and ATM drivers have these requirements
>too, just search for GFP_ATOMIC in the drivers/usb/ directory to find
>these instances.
>
>
Oh BTW... I'm experiencing constant problems with root filesystem over
NFS over usbnet on my target
I'm getting "server not responding, still trying" error whenever the
system (208-MHz ARM926 board) is under heavy load.
I think it may well be related to the thing we discuss.
Vitaly
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-16 8:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-12 15:20 [PATCH 2.6-git 0/4] SPI core refresh Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:22 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 1/4] SPI core refresh: SPI core patch Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:49 ` Russell King
2005-12-12 15:24 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 2/4] SPI core refresh: MTD dataflash driver Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:26 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 3/4] SPI core refresh: SPI/PNX controller Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 4/4] SPI core refresh: dumb EEPROM driver Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 18:01 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 0/4] SPI core refresh Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 12:09 ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-13 15:11 ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 17:06 ` dmitry pervushin
2005-12-14 6:57 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 14:28 ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 16:35 ` David Brownell
2005-12-13 18:02 ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 14:06 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 16:53 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog " Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 19:01 ` David Brownell
2005-12-13 19:15 ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 13:50 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 17:18 ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 17:53 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 18:50 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:29 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:02 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:19 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:33 ` [spi-devel-general] Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:34 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 6:47 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 16:44 ` Greg KH
2005-12-15 22:23 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 23:02 ` Greg KH
2005-12-16 8:37 ` Vitaly Wool [this message]
2005-12-16 17:34 ` Greg KH
2005-12-16 18:32 ` [spi-devel-general] Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-15 20:06 ` David Brownell
2005-12-15 22:17 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 22:33 ` Greg KH
2005-12-16 3:34 ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-16 5:17 ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 19:16 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Greg KH
2005-12-14 19:30 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 10:00 ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-14 17:22 ` David Brownell
2005-12-14 17:50 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:17 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 20:11 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 21:47 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 22:15 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 16:55 ` David Brownell
2005-12-14 17:23 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 18:48 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library " Stephen Street
2005-12-14 19:41 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 21:19 ` Stephen Street
2005-12-14 19:31 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library David Brownell
2005-12-15 12:19 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: async message handing library update Vitaly Wool
2005-12-18 18:59 ` David Brownell
2005-12-19 15:40 ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-20 7:23 ` David Brownell
2005-12-20 18:02 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-22 17:28 ` David Brownell
2005-12-22 22:10 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-22 23:55 ` David Brownell
2005-12-21 13:17 ` Vitaly Wool
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