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From: Vitaly Wool <vwool@ru.mvista.com>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dpervushin@gmail.com,
	akpm@osdl.org, basicmark@yahoo.com, komal_shah802003@yahoo.com,
	stephen@streetfiresound.com,
	spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net, Joachim_Jaeger@digi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:50:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43A05B58.4030009@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200512140922.43877.david-b@pacbell.net>

David Brownell wrote:

>On Wednesday 14 December 2005 5:50 am, Vitaly Wool wrote:
>  
>
>>>>It's way better to just insist that all I/O buffers (in all
>>>>generic APIs) be DMA-safe.  AFAICT that's a pretty standard
>>>>rule everywhere in Linux.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I agree.  
>>>      
>>>
>>Well, why then David doesn't insist on that in his own code?
>>His synchronous transfer functions
>>
>>are allocating transfer buffers on  
>>stack which is not DMA-safe.
>>    
>>
>
>I think the very first version did that, but nothing since
>has taken that shortcut.  (Several months now.)  It uses
>a buffer that's allocated on the heap.
>  
>
You're wrong.
Isn't it a part of your code:

static inline ssize_t spi_w8r8(struct spi_device *spi, u8 cmd)
{
        ssize_t                 status;
        u8                      result;

        status = spi_write_then_read(spi, &cmd, 1, &result, 1);

        /* return negative errno or unsigned value */
        return (status < 0) ? status : result;
}

You're allocating u8 var on stack, then allocate a 1-byte-long buffer 
and copy the data instead of letting the controller driver decide 
whether this allocation/copy is necessary or not. And in 99% cases it's 
not gonna be necessary as any controller driver w/o brain damage will 
transfer this as PIO.
So the overhead for sending/receiving 1 byte will be _very big_ 
(trylock, kmalloc, memcpy). See now what I'm talking about?

>
>  
>
>>Then he starts messing with allocate-or-use-preallocated stuff etc. etc.
>>Why isn't he just kmalloc'ing/kfree'ing buffers each time these 
>>functions are called 
>>    
>>
>
>So that the typical case, with little SPI contention, doesn't
>hit the heap?  That's sure what I thought ... though I can't speak
>for what other people may think I thought.  You were the one that
>wanted to optimize the atypical case to remove a blocking path!
>  
>
I meant kmalloc'ing/kfree'ing buffers is spi_w8r8/spi_w8r16/etc.

Vitaly

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-14 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-12 15:20 [PATCH 2.6-git 0/4] SPI core refresh Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:22 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 1/4] SPI core refresh: SPI core patch Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:49   ` Russell King
2005-12-12 15:24 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 2/4] SPI core refresh: MTD dataflash driver Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:26 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 3/4] SPI core refresh: SPI/PNX controller Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 4/4] SPI core refresh: dumb EEPROM driver Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 18:01 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 0/4] SPI core refresh Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 12:09   ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-13 15:11     ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 17:06       ` dmitry pervushin
2005-12-14  6:57       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 14:28         ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 16:35     ` David Brownell
2005-12-13 18:02       ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 14:06 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 16:53   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog " Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 19:01     ` David Brownell
2005-12-13 19:15       ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 13:50         ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 17:18           ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 17:53             ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 18:50               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:29                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:02               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:19                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:33                   ` [spi-devel-general] Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:34                 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15  6:47                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 16:44                   ` Greg KH
2005-12-15 22:23                     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 23:02                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-16  8:37                         ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-16 17:34                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-16 18:32                             ` [spi-devel-general] Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-15 20:06                   ` David Brownell
2005-12-15 22:17                     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 22:33                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-16  3:34                         ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-16  5:17                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 19:16               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Greg KH
2005-12-14 19:30                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 10:00               ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-14 17:22           ` David Brownell
2005-12-14 17:50             ` Vitaly Wool [this message]
2005-12-14 19:17               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 20:11                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 21:47       ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 22:15       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 16:55         ` David Brownell
2005-12-14 17:23           ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 18:48   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library " Stephen Street
2005-12-14 19:41     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 21:19       ` Stephen Street
2005-12-14 19:31   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library David Brownell
2005-12-15 12:19   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: async message handing library update Vitaly Wool
2005-12-18 18:59     ` David Brownell
2005-12-19 15:40       ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-20  7:23         ` David Brownell
2005-12-20 18:02       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-22 17:28         ` David Brownell
2005-12-22 22:10           ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-22 23:55             ` David Brownell
2005-12-21 13:17       ` Vitaly Wool

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