From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@gmail.com>
To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
Heikki Orsila <shd@modeemi.cs.tut.fi>,
Alistair John Strachan <s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:26:36 +0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43BD3AAC.9000104@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060105145101.GB28611@dspnet.fr.eu.org>
Olivier Galibert wrote:
> Make simple things simple, guys.
Sorry for hijacking the thread, but it is very true. ALSA is just too
flexible so that the ALSA equivalent (if it indeed exists) of
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=339951 cannot be fixed.
OSS allows specification of device name, and one can set up udev rules
so that e.g. /dev/dsp-creative it is always a symlink to a SB PCI sound
card and /dev/dsp-fortemedia is for FM801. Then one can tell xine to
play sound through /dev/dsp-fortemedia. ALSA accepts only numbers in its
plughw:x,y,z notation, and applications are unfixable when kernel device
numbers become random.
--
Alexander E. Patrakov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-05 15:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <5rdrx-4Yl-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-01-05 14:01 ` [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity Heikki Orsila
2006-01-05 14:24 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-05 14:45 ` Heikki Orsila
2006-01-10 9:22 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-10 11:50 ` Heikki Orsila
2006-01-05 14:51 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-05 15:26 ` Alexander E. Patrakov [this message]
2006-01-05 15:30 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-05 16:01 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2006-01-05 18:11 ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-05 15:33 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-05 16:48 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 15:27 ` Heikki Orsila
2006-01-05 14:49 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-08 7:19 linux
2006-01-08 22:08 ` Hannu Savolainen
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[not found] ` <5r0aY-2If-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <5r3Ca-88G-81@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <5reGV-6YD-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <5reGV-6YD-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <5rf9X-7yf-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-01-04 11:56 ` Patrizio Bassi
2006-01-04 18:07 ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-04 18:46 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-05 18:59 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:06 ` Patrizio Bassi
2006-01-05 20:11 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:47 ` Patrizio Bassi
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-26 15:08 [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 19:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 23:10 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-04 9:37 ` [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity Alistair John Strachan
[not found] ` <mailman.1136368805.14661.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2006-01-04 11:00 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-01-04 11:35 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-04 11:47 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-01-04 14:23 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-05 11:41 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-05 12:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-05 12:23 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-05 14:21 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-05 15:07 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-05 16:14 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-05 17:19 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:13 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-07 14:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-08 2:03 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-08 2:26 ` Martin Drab
2006-01-08 13:21 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-08 13:32 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-08 23:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-08 9:42 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-08 13:04 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-08 13:23 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-08 13:38 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 23:06 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-05 23:39 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 23:56 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 0:03 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 23:40 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 23:59 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 15:03 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-06 15:48 ` Erik Mouw
2006-01-06 18:37 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-10 9:43 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-10 13:42 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-10 14:08 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-10 14:17 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-10 20:13 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06 0:14 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06 0:29 ` Martin Drab
2006-01-06 0:57 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06 1:49 ` Martin Drab
2006-01-06 1:21 ` Zan Lynx
2006-01-06 15:17 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-09 23:55 ` jerome lacoste
2006-01-10 2:29 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-06 3:14 ` Edgar Toernig
2006-01-06 3:33 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 11:34 ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-06 7:47 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-07 14:45 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-05 18:56 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 22:39 ` Joern Nettingsmeier
2006-01-05 23:44 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-05 23:49 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-06 0:22 ` Joern Nettingsmeier
2006-01-06 1:30 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-06 2:20 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-10 9:54 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-10 13:50 ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 0:00 ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 12:47 ` Leonard Milcin Jr.
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