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From: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>
To: Heikki Orsila <shd@modeemi.cs.tut.fi>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:22:40 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0601101018580.10330@tm8103.perex-int.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060105144521.GF757@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi>

On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Heikki Orsila wrote:

> > > 	err = alsa_simple_pcm_open(nchannels, sampleformat, samplingrate, frames_in_period /* 0 for automated default */ );
> > > 	err = alsa_simple_writei(); /* handless signal brokeness automagically */
> > > 	alsa_simple_close();
> > 
> > Well, it's better to create only "fast parameter setup" and "default error 
> > recovery" functions.
> 
> As long as all applications PCM code can be written into 10-20 C lines. 
> That includes: opening device, writing pcm data and closing the device. 

I've added snd_pcm_set_params() and snd_pcm_recover() functions into 
alsa-lib (they're a bit experimental and I'm still waiting for any 
feedback from others).

The "minimal example" can be reached at:

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/alsa/alsa-lib/test/pcm_min.c?rev=1.2&view=markup

> > > Basically ogg123/mpg123 like applications would only need 3 alsa calls. 
> > > Now everyone reimplementing their own buggy versions of simple mechanisms.
> > 
> > While "official" examples exists for a long time.
> 
> btw. your official examples don't work on simple PCM playback didn't 
> work when I last time tried. Sorry, I can't remember details because it 
> is so long ago.

Any bug report? We don't have a crystal ball to fix bugs without any 
information.

						Jaroslav

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Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>
Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer
ALSA Project, SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-10  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <5rdrx-4Yl-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-01-05 14:01 ` [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity Heikki Orsila
2006-01-05 14:24   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-05 14:45     ` Heikki Orsila
2006-01-10  9:22       ` Jaroslav Kysela [this message]
2006-01-10 11:50         ` Heikki Orsila
2006-01-05 14:51     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-05 15:26       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2006-01-05 15:30         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-05 16:01           ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2006-01-05 18:11         ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-05 15:33       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-05 16:48         ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 15:27     ` Heikki Orsila
2006-01-05 14:49   ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-08  7:19 linux
2006-01-08 22:08 ` Hannu Savolainen
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     [not found] ` <5r0aY-2If-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <5r3Ca-88G-81@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <5reGV-6YD-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <5reGV-6YD-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <5rf9X-7yf-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-01-04 11:56           ` Patrizio Bassi
2006-01-04 18:07             ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-04 18:46               ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-05 18:59             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:06               ` Patrizio Bassi
2006-01-05 20:11                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 20:47               ` Patrizio Bassi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-26 15:08 [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 19:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-03 23:10   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-04  9:37     ` [OT] ALSA userspace API complexity Alistair John Strachan
     [not found]     ` <mailman.1136368805.14661.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2006-01-04 11:00       ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-01-04 11:35         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-04 11:47           ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-01-04 14:23           ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-05 11:41             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-05 12:01           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-05 12:23             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-05 14:21               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-05 15:07               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-05 16:14                 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-05 17:19                   ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 20:13                   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-07 14:32                     ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-08  2:03                       ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-08  2:26                         ` Martin Drab
2006-01-08 13:21                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-08 13:32                             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-08 23:18                               ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-08  9:42                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-08 13:04                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-08 13:23                             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-08 13:38                           ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 23:06                   ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-05 23:39                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 23:56                       ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06  0:03                         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 23:40                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 23:59                       ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 15:03                         ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-06 15:48                           ` Erik Mouw
2006-01-06 18:37                           ` Lee Revell
2006-01-10  9:43                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-10 13:42                           ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-10 14:08                             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-10 14:17                               ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-10 20:13                               ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06  0:14                       ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06  0:29                         ` Martin Drab
2006-01-06  0:57                           ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-06  1:49                             ` Martin Drab
2006-01-06  1:21                         ` Zan Lynx
2006-01-06 15:17                           ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-09 23:55                             ` jerome lacoste
2006-01-10  2:29                               ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-01-06  3:14                     ` Edgar Toernig
2006-01-06  3:33                       ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06 11:34                         ` Florian Schmidt
2006-01-06  7:47                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-07 14:45                     ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-05 18:56                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-05 22:39                 ` Joern Nettingsmeier
2006-01-05 23:44                   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2006-01-05 23:49                   ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-06  0:22                     ` Joern Nettingsmeier
2006-01-06  1:30                       ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-06  2:20                       ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-10  9:54                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-10 13:50                           ` Hannu Savolainen
2006-01-06  0:00                   ` Marcin Dalecki
2006-01-05 12:47             ` Leonard Milcin Jr.

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