From: zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/17] RFC: userfault v2
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:19:28 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <546EE780.8070307@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141120173833.GG803@redhat.com>
On 2014/11/21 1:38, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:54:29AM +0800, zhanghailiang wrote:
>> Yes, you are right. This is what i really want, bypass all non-present faults
>> and only track strict wrprotect faults. ;)
>>
>> So, do you plan to support that in the userfault API?
>
> Yes I think it's good idea to support wrprotect/COW faults too.
>
Great! Then i can expect your patches. ;)
> I just wanted to understand if there was any other reason why you
> needed only wrprotect faults, because the non-present faults didn't
> look like a big performance concern if they triggered in addition to
> wrprotect faults, but it's certainly ok to optimize them away so it's
> fully optimal.
>
Er, you have got the answer, no special, it's only for optimality.
> All it takes to differentiate the behavior should be one more bit
> during registration so you can select non-present, wrprotect faults or
> both. postcopy live migration would select only non-present faults,
> postcopy live snapshot would select only wrprotect faults, anything
> like distributed shared memory supporting shared readonly access and
> exclusive write access, would select both flags.
>
It is really flexible in this way.
> I just sent an (unfortunately) longish but way more detailed email
> about live snapshotting with userfaultfd but I just wanted to give a
> shorter answer here too :).
>
Thanks for your explanation, and your patience. It is really useful,
now i know more details about why 'fork & dump live snapshot' scenario
is not acceptable. Thanks :)
> Thanks,
> Andrea
>
> .
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-21 7:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-03 17:07 [PATCH 00/17] RFC: userfault v2 Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [PATCH 01/17] mm: gup: add FOLL_TRIED Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-03 20:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [PATCH 02/17] mm: gup: add get_user_pages_locked and get_user_pages_unlocked Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [PATCH 03/17] mm: gup: use get_user_pages_unlocked within get_user_pages_fast Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [PATCH 04/17] mm: gup: make get_user_pages_fast and __get_user_pages_fast latency conscious Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 18:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-06 14:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [PATCH 05/17] mm: gup: use get_user_pages_fast and get_user_pages_unlocked Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [PATCH 06/17] kvm: Faults which trigger IO release the mmap_sem Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [PATCH 07/17] mm: madvise MADV_USERFAULT: prepare vm_flags to allow more than 32bits Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 9:03 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-11-06 20:08 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [PATCH 08/17] mm: madvise MADV_USERFAULT Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 23:13 ` Mike Hommey
2014-10-06 17:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 10:36 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-07 10:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 10:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-07 11:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 11:30 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-07 13:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 15:21 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [PATCH 09/17] mm: PT lock: export double_pt_lock/unlock Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-06 8:55 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-06 16:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 12:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-07 14:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 15:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 15:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 16:13 ` Peter Feiner
2014-10-07 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-07 17:07 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 17:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07 17:25 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 11:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-07 13:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [PATCH 11/17] mm: swp_entry_swapcount Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [PATCH 12/17] mm: sys_remap_anon_pages Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-04 13:13 ` Andi Kleen
2014-10-06 17:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [PATCH 13/17] waitqueue: add nr wake parameter to __wake_up_locked_key Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [PATCH 14/17] userfaultfd: add new syscall to provide memory externalization Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [PATCH 15/17] userfaultfd: make userfaultfd_write non blocking Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [PATCH 16/17] powerpc: add remap_anon_pages and userfaultfd Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [PATCH 17/17] userfaultfd: implement USERFAULTFD_RANGE_REGISTER|UNREGISTER Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-27 9:32 ` [PATCH 00/17] RFC: userfault v2 zhanghailiang
2014-10-29 17:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-29 17:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2014-11-21 20:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-21 23:05 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-25 19:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-30 11:31 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-30 12:49 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-31 1:26 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-19 18:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-20 2:54 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-20 17:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-21 7:19 ` zhanghailiang [this message]
2014-10-31 2:23 ` Peter Feiner
2014-10-31 3:29 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-31 4:38 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-31 5:17 ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-10-31 8:11 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-31 19:39 ` Peter Feiner
2014-11-01 8:48 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-20 17:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-12 7:18 ` zhanghailiang
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