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From: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 09/10] landlock: Handle cgroups (program types)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 21:55:01 +0200
Message-ID: <57C1F015.1000301@digikod.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160827181939.GC38754@ast-mbp.thefacebook.com>

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On 27/08/2016 20:19, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 04:34:55PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
>>
>> On 27/08/2016 01:05, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 05:10:40PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
>>>
>>>>> As far as safety and type checking that bpf programs has to do,
>>>>> I like the approach of patch 06/10:
>>>>> +LANDLOCK_HOOK2(file_open, FILE_OPEN,
>>>>> +       PTR_TO_STRUCT_FILE, struct file *, file,
>>>>> +       PTR_TO_STRUCT_CRED, const struct cred *, cred
>>>>> +)
>>>>> teaching verifier to recognize struct file, cred, sockaddr
>>>>> will let bpf program access them naturally without any overhead.
>>>>> Though:
>>>>> @@ -102,6 +102,9 @@ enum bpf_prog_type {
>>>>>         BPF_PROG_TYPE_SCHED_CLS,
>>>>>         BPF_PROG_TYPE_SCHED_ACT,
>>>>>         BPF_PROG_TYPE_TRACEPOINT,
>>>>> +       BPF_PROG_TYPE_LANDLOCK_FILE_OPEN,
>>>>> +       BPF_PROG_TYPE_LANDLOCK_FILE_PERMISSION,
>>>>> +       BPF_PROG_TYPE_LANDLOCK_MMAP_FILE,
>>>>>  };
>>>>> is a bit of overkill.
>>>>> I think it would be cleaner to have single
>>>>> BPF_PROG_TYPE_LSM and at program load time pass
>>>>> lsm_hook_id as well, so that verifier can do safety checks
>>>>> based on type info provided in LANDLOCK_HOOKs
>>>>
>>>> I first started with a unique BPF_PROG_TYPE but, the thing is, the BPF
>>>> verifier check programs according to their types. If we need to check
>>>> specific context value types (e.g. PTR_TO_STRUCT_FILE), we need a
>>>> dedicated program types. I don't see any other way to do it with the
>>>> current verifier code. Moreover it's the purpose of program types, right?
>>>
>>> Adding new bpf program type for every lsm hook is not acceptable.
>>> Either do one new program type + pass lsm_hook_id as suggested
>>> or please come up with an alternative approach.
>>
>> OK, so we have to modify the verifier to not only rely on the program
>> type but on another value to check the context accesses. Do you have a
>> hint from where this value could come from? Do we need to add a new bpf
>> command to associate a program to a subtype?
> 
> It's another field prog_subtype (or prog_hook_id) in union bpf_attr.
> Both prog_type and prog_hook_id are used during verification.
> prog_type distinguishes the main aspects whereas prog_hook_id selects
> which lsm_hook's argument definition to apply.
> At the time of attaching to a hook, the prog_hook_id passed at the
> load time should match lsm's hook_id.

OK, so this new prog_subtype field should be use/set by a new bpf_cmd,
right? Something like BPF_PROG_SUBTYPE or BPF_PROG_METADATA?


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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-25 10:32 [RFC v2 00/10] Landlock LSM: Unprivileged sandboxing Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 01/10] landlock: Add Kconfig Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 02/10] bpf: Move u64_to_ptr() to BPF headers and inline it Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 03/10] bpf,landlock: Add a new arraymap type to deal with (Landlock) handles Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 04/10] seccomp: Split put_seccomp_filter() with put_seccomp() Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 05/10] seccomp: Handle Landlock Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 06/10] landlock: Add LSM hooks Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 18:56   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 20:10     ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 20:18       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 20:27         ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 07/10] landlock: Add errno check Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 11:13   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 08/10] landlock: Handle file system comparisons Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 11:12   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-25 14:10     ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-26 14:57       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-27 13:45         ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 09/10] landlock: Handle cgroups Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 11:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-25 14:44     ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-26 12:55       ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-26 14:20       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-26 15:50         ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-26  2:14   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-26 15:10     ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-26 23:05       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27  7:30         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-27 18:11           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-28  8:14             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-27 14:06         ` [RFC v2 09/10] landlock: Handle cgroups (performance) Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27 18:06           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27 19:35             ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27 20:43               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27 21:14                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-28  8:13                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-28  9:42                     ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 18:55                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 20:20                         ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 20:23                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 20:33                             ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 20:55                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-30 21:45                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-31  1:36                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-31  3:29                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-27 14:19         ` [RFC v2 09/10] landlock: Handle cgroups (netfilter match) Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27 18:32           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27 14:34         ` [RFC v2 09/10] landlock: Handle cgroups (program types) Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27 18:19           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27 19:55             ` Mickaël Salaün [this message]
2016-08-27 20:56               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27 21:18                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 10/10] samples/landlock: Add sandbox example Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 11:05 ` [RFC v2 00/10] Landlock LSM: Unprivileged sandboxing Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-25 13:57   ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27  7:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-27 15:10   ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27 15:21     ` [RFC v2 00/10] Landlock LSM: Unprivileged sandboxing (cgroup delegation) Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 16:06 ` [RFC v2 00/10] Landlock LSM: Unprivileged sandboxing Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 19:51   ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 19:55     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-15  9:19 ` Pavel Machek
2016-09-20 17:08   ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-09-24  7:45     ` Pavel Machek
2016-10-03 22:56     ` Kees Cook
2016-10-05 20:30       ` Mickaël Salaün

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