From: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
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"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 -tip] x86/percpu: Use C for arch_raw_cpu_ptr()
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 19:32:43 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6EB66FDE-DDE1-40FA-A391-AEFF963CA97E@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whNVf+YghEH4JNjp99NzG5+M7CQrLK42VNKnDydBG4ovA@mail.gmail.com>
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> On Oct 12, 2023, at 8:16 PM, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> !! External Email
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> On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 08:19, Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com> wrote:
>>
>> +/*
>> + * Hold a constant alias for current_task, which would allow to avoid caching of
>> + * current task.
>> + *
>> + * We must mark const_current_task with the segment qualifiers, as otherwise gcc
>> + * would do redundant reads of const_current_task.
>> + */
>> +DECLARE_PER_CPU(struct pcpu_hot const __percpu_seg_override, const_pcpu_hot);
>
> Hmm. The only things I'm not super-happy about with your patch is
>
> (a) it looks like this depends on the alias analysis knowing that the
> __seg_gs isn't affected by normal memory ops. That implies that this
> will not work well with compiler versions that don't do that?
>
> (b) This declaration doesn't match the other one. So now there are
> two *different* declarations for const_pcpu_hot, which I really don't
> like.
>
> That second one would seem to be trivial to just fix (or maybe not,
> and you do it that way for some horrible reason).
If you refer to the difference between DECLARE_PER_CPU_ALIGNED() and
DECLARE_PER_CPU() - that’s just a silly mistake that I made porting my
old patch (I also put “const” in the wrong place of the declaration, sorry).
>
> The first one sounds bad to me - basically making the *reason* for
> this patch go away - but maybe the compilers that don't support
> address spaces are so rare that we can ignore it.
As far as I understand it has nothing to do with the address spaces, and IIRC
the compiler does not regard gs/fs address spaces as independent from the main
one. That’s the reason a compiler barrier affects regular loads with __seg_gs.
The “trick” that the patch does is to expose a new const_pcpu_hot symbol that has
a “const” qualifier. For compilation units from which the symbol is effectively
constant, we use const_pcpu_hot. The compiler then knows that the value would not
change.
Later, when we actually define the const_pcpu_hot, we tell the compiler using
__attribute__((alias("pcpu_hot”)) that this symbol is actually an alias to pcpu_hot.
Although it is a bit of a trick that I have never seen elsewhere, I don’t see it
violating GCC specifications (“except for top-level qualifiers the alias target
must have the same type as the alias” [1]), and there is nothing that is specific
to the gs address-space. I still have the concern of its interaction with LTO
though, and perhaps using “-fno-lto” when compiling compilation units that
modify current (e.g., arch/x86/kernel/process_64.o) is necessary.
I hope it makes sense.
[1] https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Common-Variable-Attributes.html
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-10 16:42 [PATCH v2 -tip] x86/percpu: Use C for arch_raw_cpu_ptr() Uros Bizjak
2023-10-10 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-10 18:22 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-10 18:25 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-10 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-10 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-10 18:41 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-10 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-11 7:27 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-11 7:45 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-11 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-11 18:42 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-11 19:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-11 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-11 20:00 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-11 22:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-11 23:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-10-12 1:35 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 6:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-12 16:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 17:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-12 21:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-13 10:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-11 7:41 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-11 19:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-11 21:32 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-11 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 15:19 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-12 16:33 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-12 16:55 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-12 17:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 17:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 18:01 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-13 9:38 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-13 11:53 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-13 16:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 17:52 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-11-20 9:39 ` Use %a asm operand modifier to obtain %rip-relative addressing Uros Bizjak
2023-10-12 16:56 ` [PATCH v2 -tip] x86/percpu: Use C for arch_raw_cpu_ptr() Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 19:32 ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2023-10-12 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-16 18:52 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-16 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-16 20:35 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-16 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-16 23:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-16 23:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-17 7:23 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-17 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-17 19:11 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-17 21:05 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-17 21:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-17 22:06 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-17 22:29 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 7:46 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 9:04 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 10:54 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 12:14 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 13:15 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 14:46 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 15:17 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 16:03 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 17:23 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 18:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 18:08 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 18:26 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 19:33 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 20:17 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 20:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 20:51 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 21:09 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 21:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 21:40 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 23:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 7:04 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 16:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 17:21 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 18:16 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-20 7:57 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 22:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-20 8:08 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 8:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 17:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 18:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 18:37 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 9:23 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 20:42 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 16:32 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 17:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 18:29 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 17:07 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-16 21:09 ` Uros Bizjak
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