From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
Cc: Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>,
"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 -tip] x86/percpu: Use C for arch_raw_cpu_ptr()
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 09:26:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=whS8-Lk_=mFp=mr-JrbRYtScgz-4s_GLAOQGafa_3zP9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28B9471C-4FB0-4AB0-81DD-4885C3645E95@vmware.com>
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 at 09:03, Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com> wrote:
>
> Having said that, I am not sure what other usages you have in mind.
> “current” is a pretty obvious straight forward case with considerable
> impact on code generation. There may be additional variables, but it is
> likely that there would be more functions/TU in which they would not be
> constant and would require more refined techniques to avoid mistakes
> such as the use of stale cached values.
Yeah, I don't think there really are other cases.
We do have things that could be considered stable (like
"smp_processor_id()" which is stable as long as preemption or
migration is disabled (or it's in an irq-off section).
And it might be lovely to optimize those too, *BUT* that would require
that there be a barrier against that optimization that works.
And if there is anything that this thread has made clear, it's that
the whole 'load from a constant section' doesn't seem to have any sane
barriers.
So while the CSE for inline asm statements is a bit too weak with that
whole "only CSE within a basic block" thing, the CSE of "load a
constant value from memory" is too *strong*, in that we don't seem to
have _any_ sane way to say "now you need to reload".
The traditional way we've done that is with our "barrier()" macro,
which does the whole inline asm with a memory clobber, but even that
doesn't act as a barrier for gcc optimizing the constant load.
Which means that while we'd probably love for the compiere to optimize
smp_processor_id() a bit more, we can't use the 'stable memory
location' trick for it.
Because I can't think of anything but 'current' that would be _that_
stable as far as C code is concerned.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-18 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-10 16:42 [PATCH v2 -tip] x86/percpu: Use C for arch_raw_cpu_ptr() Uros Bizjak
2023-10-10 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-10 18:22 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-10 18:25 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-10 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-10 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-10 18:41 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-10 18:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-11 7:27 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-11 7:45 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-11 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-11 18:42 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-11 19:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-11 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-11 20:00 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-11 22:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-11 23:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-10-12 1:35 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 6:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-12 16:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-12 17:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-12 21:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-10-13 10:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-11 7:41 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-11 19:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-11 21:32 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-11 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 15:19 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-12 16:33 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-12 16:55 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-12 17:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 17:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 18:01 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-13 9:38 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-13 11:53 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-13 16:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 17:52 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-11-20 9:39 ` Use %a asm operand modifier to obtain %rip-relative addressing Uros Bizjak
2023-10-12 16:56 ` [PATCH v2 -tip] x86/percpu: Use C for arch_raw_cpu_ptr() Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-12 19:32 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-12 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-16 18:52 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-16 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-16 20:35 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-16 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-16 23:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-16 23:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-17 7:23 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-17 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-17 19:11 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-17 21:05 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-17 21:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-17 22:06 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-17 22:29 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 7:46 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 9:04 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 10:54 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 12:14 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 13:15 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 14:46 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 15:17 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 16:03 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2023-10-18 17:23 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 18:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 18:08 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 18:26 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 19:33 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 20:17 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 20:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 20:51 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 21:09 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 21:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 21:40 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 23:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 7:04 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 16:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 17:21 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 18:16 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-20 7:57 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 22:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-20 8:08 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 8:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 17:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 18:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-19 18:37 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-19 9:23 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 20:42 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 16:32 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-19 17:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 18:29 ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-18 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-18 17:07 ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-18 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-16 21:09 ` Uros Bizjak
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