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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>
Cc: Dongsu Park <dongsu@kinvolk.io>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Alban Crequy <alban@kinvolk.io>,
	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
	Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/11] fs: Allow CAP_SYS_ADMIN in s_user_ns to freeze and thaw filesystems
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:56:56 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mv04mvuv.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOssrKeSTY1pAhpmegFWdGh7irNbT4veG5JaYFj8Q1JjMynadw@mail.gmail.com> (Miklos Szeredi's message of "Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:28:12 +0100")

Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com> writes:

> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Dongsu Park <dongsu@kinvolk.io> wrote:
>> From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
>>
>> The user in control of a super block should be allowed to freeze
>> and thaw it. Relax the restrictions on the FIFREEZE and FITHAW
>> ioctls to require CAP_SYS_ADMIN in s_user_ns.
>
> Why is this required for unprivileged fuse?
>
> Fuse doesn't support freeze, so this seems to make no sense in the
> context of this patchset.

This isn't required to support fuse.  It is a relaxation in permissions
so it isn't strictly necessary for anything.

Until just recently Seth and I work working through the vfs looking at
what we need in general for unprivileged mounts.  With fuse as our focus
but we were not limiting ourselves to fuse.

I have been putting off relaxation of permissions like this because they
are not necessary for safety.  But in general they do make sense.

In practice I think all we need to worry about for fuse is the last 4 patches.


Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-19 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-22 14:32 [PATCH v5 00/11] FUSE mounts from non-init user namespaces Dongsu Park
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 01/11] block_dev: Support checking inode permissions in lookup_bdev() Dongsu Park
2017-12-22 18:59   ` Coly Li
2017-12-23 12:00     ` Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:03   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 02/11] mtd: Check permissions towards mtd block device inode when mounting Dongsu Park
2017-12-22 21:06   ` Richard Weinberger
2017-12-23 12:18     ` Dongsu Park
2017-12-23 12:56       ` Richard Weinberger
2017-12-23  3:05   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 03/11] fs: Allow superblock owner to change ownership of inodes Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:17   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-01-05 19:24   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-01-09 15:10     ` Dongsu Park
2018-01-09 17:23       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-02-13 13:18   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-16 22:00     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 04/11] fs: Don't remove suid for CAP_FSETID for userns root Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:26   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-23 12:38     ` Dongsu Park
2018-02-13 13:37       ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 05/11] fs: Allow superblock owner to access do_remount_sb() Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:30   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 06/11] capabilities: Allow privileged user in s_user_ns to set security.* xattrs Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:33   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 07/11] fs: Allow CAP_SYS_ADMIN in s_user_ns to freeze and thaw filesystems Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:39   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-14 12:28   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-19 22:56     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 08/11] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:46   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-01-17 10:59   ` Alban Crequy
2018-01-17 14:29     ` Seth Forshee
2018-01-17 18:56       ` Alban Crequy
2018-01-17 19:31         ` Seth Forshee
2018-01-18 10:29           ` Alban Crequy
2018-02-12 15:57   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-12 16:35     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-13 10:20       ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-16 21:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-20  2:12   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 09/11] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:50   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-19 23:16   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 10/11] fuse: Allow user namespace mounts Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:51   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-14 13:44   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-15  8:46     ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 11/11] evm: Don't update hmacs in user ns mounts Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  4:03   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-24  5:12     ` Mimi Zohar
2017-12-24  5:56       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-12-25  7:05 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] FUSE mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-09 15:05   ` Dongsu Park
2018-01-18 14:58     ` Alban Crequy
2018-02-19 23:09       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-13 11:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-16 21:53   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] fuse: " Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 1/5] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 10:13     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-22 19:04       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 2/5] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 10:26     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-22 18:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 3/5] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 4/5] fuse: Ensure posix acls are translated " Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 11:40     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-22 19:18       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 22:50         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26  7:47           ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-26 16:35             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 21:51               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 5/5] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52   ` [PATCH v7 0/7] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 1/7] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 2/7] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 3/7] fs/posix_acl: Document that get_acl respects ACL_DONT_CACHE Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  1:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-27  2:53         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  3:14           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  3:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-02 19:53               ` [RFC][PATCH] fs/posix_acl: Update the comments and support lightweight cache skipping Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  3:36           ` [PATCH v7 3/7] fs/posix_acl: Document that get_acl respects ACL_DONT_CACHE Linus Torvalds
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 4/7] fuse: Cache a NULL acl when FUSE_GETXATTR returns -ENOSYS Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:53     ` [PATCH v7 5/7] fuse: Simplfiy the posix acl handling logic Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  9:00       ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-03-02 21:49         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:53     ` [PATCH v7 6/7] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:53     ` [PATCH v7 7/7] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:58     ` [PATCH v8 0/6] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 1/6] fs/posix_acl: Update the comments and support lightweight cache skipping Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-05  9:53         ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-03-05 13:53           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 2/6] fuse: Simplfiy the posix acl handling logic Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 3/6] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 4/6] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 5/6] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 6/6] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:23       ` [PATCH v9 0/4] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 1/4] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 2/4] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 3/4] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 4/4] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-20 16:25         ` [PATCH v9 0/4] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Miklos Szeredi
2018-03-20 18:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-21  8:38             ` Miklos Szeredi

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