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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alban Crequy <alban@kinvolk.io>,
	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
	Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>,
	Dongsu Park <dongsu@kinvolk.io>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/7] fs/posix_acl: Document that get_acl respects ACL_DONT_CACHE
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 19:36:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFz+=zyuAcM3J5PfNNXqErf2x595eP=7tY_-p_L2ryr0rg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r2p7rvn5.fsf@xmission.com>

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Eric W. Biederman
<ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>
> So the purpose for having a patch in the first place is that
> 2a3a2a3f3524 ("ovl: don't cache acl on overlay layer")
> which addded ACL_DONT_CACHED did not result in any comment updates
> to get_acl.

I'm not opposed to just updating the comments.

I just think your updates were somewhat misleading.

> Which mean that if you read the comments in get_acl() that you
> don't even think of ACL_DONT_CACHED.

Right. By all means add a comment about ACL_DONT_CACHE disabling the
cache entirely.

But don't _remove_ the other valid way to flush the cache, and don't
make that comment above cmpxchg() be even more confusing than the code
is.

> Does this look better as a comment updating patch?
>
> diff --git a/fs/posix_acl.c b/fs/posix_acl.c
> index 2fd0fde16fe1..5453094b8828 100644
> --- a/fs/posix_acl.c
> +++ b/fs/posix_acl.c
> @@ -98,6 +98,11 @@ struct posix_acl *get_acl(struct inode *inode, int type)
>         struct posix_acl **p;
>         struct posix_acl *acl;
>
> +       /*
> +        * To avoid caching the result of ->get_acl
> +        * set inode->i_acl = inode->i_default_acl = ACL_DONT_CACHE;
> +        */
> +
>         /*
>          * The sentinel is used to detect when another operation like
>          * set_cached_acl() or forget_cached_acl() races with get_acl().
> @@ -126,9 +131,7 @@ struct posix_acl *get_acl(struct inode *inode, int type)
>                 /* fall through */ ;
>
>         /*
> -        * Normally, the ACL returned by ->get_acl will be cached.
> -        * A filesystem can prevent that by calling
> -        * forget_cached_acl(inode, type) in ->get_acl.
> +        * The ACL returned by ->get_acl will be cached.

Why do you hate forget_cached_acl()?

It's perfectly valid too. Don't remove that comment. Maybe reword it
to talk not about "preventing", but about "invalidating the cache".

But the old comment that you remove isn't _wrong_, it's just that the
"preventing" from returning the cached state with forget_cached_acl()
is just a one-time thing.

So forget_cached_acl() exists, and it works, and it does exactly what
its name says. It is a perfectly valid way to prevent the current
entry from being used in the future.

See? I object to you removing that, and trying to make it be like
ACL_DONT_CACHE is the *onyl* way to not cache something.

Because honestly, that's what your comment updates do. They take the
comments about _one_ case, and switch it over to be about the _othger_
case.

But dammit, there are _two_ ways to not cache things.

"Fixing" the comment to talk about one and removing the other isn't a
fix. It's just a stupid change that now has the problem the other way
around!

So fix the comment to really just talk about both things.

First: talk about how to avoid caching entirely (ACL_DONT_CACHE).
Then, talk about how to invalidate the cache once it has been
instantiated (forget_cached_acl()).

Don't do this idiotic "remove the valid comment just because you
happened to care about the _other_ case"


              Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-27  3:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-22 14:32 [PATCH v5 00/11] FUSE mounts from non-init user namespaces Dongsu Park
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 01/11] block_dev: Support checking inode permissions in lookup_bdev() Dongsu Park
2017-12-22 18:59   ` Coly Li
2017-12-23 12:00     ` Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:03   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 02/11] mtd: Check permissions towards mtd block device inode when mounting Dongsu Park
2017-12-22 21:06   ` Richard Weinberger
2017-12-23 12:18     ` Dongsu Park
2017-12-23 12:56       ` Richard Weinberger
2017-12-23  3:05   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 03/11] fs: Allow superblock owner to change ownership of inodes Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:17   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-01-05 19:24   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-01-09 15:10     ` Dongsu Park
2018-01-09 17:23       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-02-13 13:18   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-16 22:00     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 04/11] fs: Don't remove suid for CAP_FSETID for userns root Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:26   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-23 12:38     ` Dongsu Park
2018-02-13 13:37       ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 05/11] fs: Allow superblock owner to access do_remount_sb() Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:30   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 06/11] capabilities: Allow privileged user in s_user_ns to set security.* xattrs Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:33   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 07/11] fs: Allow CAP_SYS_ADMIN in s_user_ns to freeze and thaw filesystems Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:39   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-14 12:28   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-19 22:56     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 08/11] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:46   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-01-17 10:59   ` Alban Crequy
2018-01-17 14:29     ` Seth Forshee
2018-01-17 18:56       ` Alban Crequy
2018-01-17 19:31         ` Seth Forshee
2018-01-18 10:29           ` Alban Crequy
2018-02-12 15:57   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-12 16:35     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-13 10:20       ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-16 21:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-20  2:12   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 09/11] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:50   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-19 23:16   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 10/11] fuse: Allow user namespace mounts Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:51   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-14 13:44   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-15  8:46     ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 11/11] evm: Don't update hmacs in user ns mounts Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  4:03   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-24  5:12     ` Mimi Zohar
2017-12-24  5:56       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-12-25  7:05 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] FUSE mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-09 15:05   ` Dongsu Park
2018-01-18 14:58     ` Alban Crequy
2018-02-19 23:09       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-13 11:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-16 21:53   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] fuse: " Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 1/5] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 10:13     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-22 19:04       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 2/5] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 10:26     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-22 18:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 3/5] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 4/5] fuse: Ensure posix acls are translated " Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 11:40     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-22 19:18       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 22:50         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26  7:47           ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-26 16:35             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 21:51               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 5/5] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52   ` [PATCH v7 0/7] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 1/7] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 2/7] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 3/7] fs/posix_acl: Document that get_acl respects ACL_DONT_CACHE Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  1:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-27  2:53         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  3:14           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  3:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-02 19:53               ` [RFC][PATCH] fs/posix_acl: Update the comments and support lightweight cache skipping Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  3:36           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 4/7] fuse: Cache a NULL acl when FUSE_GETXATTR returns -ENOSYS Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:53     ` [PATCH v7 5/7] fuse: Simplfiy the posix acl handling logic Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  9:00       ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-03-02 21:49         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:53     ` [PATCH v7 6/7] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:53     ` [PATCH v7 7/7] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:58     ` [PATCH v8 0/6] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 1/6] fs/posix_acl: Update the comments and support lightweight cache skipping Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-05  9:53         ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-03-05 13:53           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 2/6] fuse: Simplfiy the posix acl handling logic Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 3/6] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 4/6] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 5/6] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 6/6] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:23       ` [PATCH v9 0/4] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 1/4] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 2/4] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 3/4] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 4/4] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-20 16:25         ` [PATCH v9 0/4] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Miklos Szeredi
2018-03-20 18:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-21  8:38             ` Miklos Szeredi

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