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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alban Crequy <alban@kinvolk.io>,
	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
	Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>,
	Dongsu Park <dongsu@kinvolk.io>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/7] fs/posix_acl: Document that get_acl respects ACL_DONT_CACHE
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 17:13:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFySgJyR6JLcS9HLC9wEpWU1isdyTkchHxZHbJWsh7HFpg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180226235302.12708-3-ebiederm@xmission.com>

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 3:52 PM, Eric W. Biederman
<ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>
> Additionaly update the comment above the call to get_acl itself and
> remove the wrong information that an implementation of get_acl can
> prevent caching by calling forget_cached_acl.

This part is just confusing.

First off, that comment is correct: a filesystem _can_ prevent the
returning of cached data by just calling forget_cached_acl().

Note that there are two different cases: saying that you _never_ want
to cache things (ACL_DONT_CACHE) and saying that there _currently_ is
no cached data (ACL_NOT_CACHED).

forget_cached_acl() just removes the current cache.

You're just replacing one case of "no cached" information with the other.

Just explain the two cases, don't try to muddy the waters even more..

PLUS you are just confusing things entirely. That whole new comment of yours:

+        * ACL_DONT_CACHE is treated as another task updating the acl and
+        * remains set.

is just garbage.

The code is very clear - it will only replace a ACL_NOT_CACHED entry.
The code is clear:

        if (cmpxchg(p, ACL_NOT_CACHED, sentinel) != ACL_NOT_CACHED)
                /* fall through */ ;

this is basically just an atomic "if *p == ACL_NOT_CACHED then replace
it with 'sentinel'".

Your comment does not add any clarity at all, and only confuses
things. It has nothing to do with "treated as another task updating
the acl".

The fact is, ACL_DONT_CACHE is treated as if the cache is simply
already filled - it's just filled with "no cache".

So the only thing special is ACL_NOT_CACHED, which is the only thing
we will try to _replace_.

So NAK on this patch entirely. It's just adding confusion, not adding
clarifications.

                Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-27  1:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-22 14:32 [PATCH v5 00/11] FUSE mounts from non-init user namespaces Dongsu Park
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 01/11] block_dev: Support checking inode permissions in lookup_bdev() Dongsu Park
2017-12-22 18:59   ` Coly Li
2017-12-23 12:00     ` Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:03   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 02/11] mtd: Check permissions towards mtd block device inode when mounting Dongsu Park
2017-12-22 21:06   ` Richard Weinberger
2017-12-23 12:18     ` Dongsu Park
2017-12-23 12:56       ` Richard Weinberger
2017-12-23  3:05   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 03/11] fs: Allow superblock owner to change ownership of inodes Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:17   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-01-05 19:24   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-01-09 15:10     ` Dongsu Park
2018-01-09 17:23       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-02-13 13:18   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-16 22:00     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 04/11] fs: Don't remove suid for CAP_FSETID for userns root Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:26   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-23 12:38     ` Dongsu Park
2018-02-13 13:37       ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 05/11] fs: Allow superblock owner to access do_remount_sb() Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:30   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 06/11] capabilities: Allow privileged user in s_user_ns to set security.* xattrs Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:33   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 07/11] fs: Allow CAP_SYS_ADMIN in s_user_ns to freeze and thaw filesystems Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:39   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-14 12:28   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-19 22:56     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 08/11] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:46   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-01-17 10:59   ` Alban Crequy
2018-01-17 14:29     ` Seth Forshee
2018-01-17 18:56       ` Alban Crequy
2018-01-17 19:31         ` Seth Forshee
2018-01-18 10:29           ` Alban Crequy
2018-02-12 15:57   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-12 16:35     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-13 10:20       ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-16 21:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-20  2:12   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 09/11] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:50   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-19 23:16   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 10/11] fuse: Allow user namespace mounts Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  3:51   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-14 13:44   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-15  8:46     ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-12-22 14:32 ` [PATCH 11/11] evm: Don't update hmacs in user ns mounts Dongsu Park
2017-12-23  4:03   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-12-24  5:12     ` Mimi Zohar
2017-12-24  5:56       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-12-25  7:05 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] FUSE mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-09 15:05   ` Dongsu Park
2018-01-18 14:58     ` Alban Crequy
2018-02-19 23:09       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-13 11:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-16 21:53   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] fuse: " Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 1/5] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 10:13     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-22 19:04       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 2/5] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 10:26     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-22 18:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 3/5] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 4/5] fuse: Ensure posix acls are translated " Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 11:40     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-22 19:18       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-22 22:50         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26  7:47           ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-26 16:35             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 21:51               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-21 20:29   ` [PATCH v6 5/5] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52   ` [PATCH v7 0/7] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 1/7] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 2/7] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 3/7] fs/posix_acl: Document that get_acl respects ACL_DONT_CACHE Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  1:13       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-02-27  2:53         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  3:14           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  3:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-02 19:53               ` [RFC][PATCH] fs/posix_acl: Update the comments and support lightweight cache skipping Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  3:36           ` [PATCH v7 3/7] fs/posix_acl: Document that get_acl respects ACL_DONT_CACHE Linus Torvalds
2018-02-26 23:52     ` [PATCH v7 4/7] fuse: Cache a NULL acl when FUSE_GETXATTR returns -ENOSYS Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:53     ` [PATCH v7 5/7] fuse: Simplfiy the posix acl handling logic Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27  9:00       ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-03-02 21:49         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:53     ` [PATCH v7 6/7] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-26 23:53     ` [PATCH v7 7/7] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:58     ` [PATCH v8 0/6] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 1/6] fs/posix_acl: Update the comments and support lightweight cache skipping Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-05  9:53         ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-03-05 13:53           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 2/6] fuse: Simplfiy the posix acl handling logic Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 3/6] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 4/6] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 5/6] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-02 21:59       ` [PATCH v8 6/6] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:23       ` [PATCH v9 0/4] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 1/4] fuse: Remove the buggy retranslation of pids in fuse_dev_do_read Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 2/4] fuse: Fail all requests with invalid uids or gids Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 3/4] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-08 21:24         ` [PATCH v9 4/4] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-20 16:25         ` [PATCH v9 0/4] fuse: mounts from non-init user namespaces Miklos Szeredi
2018-03-20 18:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-21  8:38             ` Miklos Szeredi

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