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From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: "Robert Święcki" <robert@swiecki.net>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Will Drewry" <wad@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] signal: HANDLER_EXIT should clear SIGNAL_UNKILLABLE
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 12:58:07 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmnu5z28.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202202101033.9C04563D9@keescook> (Kees Cook's message of "Thu, 10 Feb 2022 10:41:57 -0800")

Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> writes:

> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 12:17:50PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> writes:
>> 
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > This fixes the signal refactoring to actually kill unkillable processes
>> > when receiving a fatal SIGSYS from seccomp. Thanks to Robert for the
>> > report and Eric for the fix! I've also tweaked seccomp internal a bit to
>> > fail more safely. This was a partial seccomp bypass, in the sense that
>> > SECCOMP_RET_KILL_* didn't kill the process, but it didn't bypass other
>> > aspects of the filters. (i.e. the syscall was still blocked, etc.)
>> 
>> Any luck on figuring out how to suppress the extra event?
>
> I haven't found a good single indicator of a process being in an "I am dying"
> state, and even if I did, it seems every architecture's exit path would
> need to add a new test.

The "I am dying" state for a task is fatal_signal_pending, at least
before get_signal is reached, for a process there is SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT.
Something I am busily cleaning up and making more reliable at the
moment.

What is the event that is happening?  Is it
tracehook_report_syscall_exit or something else?

From the bits I have seen it seems like something else.

> The best approach seems to be clearing the TIF_*WORK* bits, but that's
> still a bit arch-specific. And I'm not sure which layer would do that.
> At what point have we decided the process will not continue? More
> than seccomp was calling do_exit() in the middle of a syscall, but those
> appear to have all been either SIGKILL or SIGSEGV?

This is where I get confused what TIF_WORK bits matter?

I expect if anything else mattered we would need to change it to
HANDLER_EXIT.

I made a mistake conflating to cases and I want to make certain I
successfully separate those two cases at the end of the day.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-10 18:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-10  2:53 [PATCH 0/3] signal: HANDLER_EXIT should clear SIGNAL_UNKILLABLE Kees Cook
2022-02-10  2:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Kees Cook
2022-02-10 16:18   ` Jann Horn
2022-02-10 17:37     ` Kees Cook
2022-02-10 18:01       ` Jann Horn
2022-02-10 18:12         ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-10 21:09         ` Kees Cook
2022-02-11 20:15           ` Jann Horn
2022-02-10 18:16   ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-10  2:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] seccomp: Invalidate seccomp mode to catch death failures Kees Cook
2022-02-10  2:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] samples/seccomp: Adjust sample to also provide kill option Kees Cook
2022-02-10 18:17 ` [PATCH 0/3] signal: HANDLER_EXIT should clear SIGNAL_UNKILLABLE Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-10 18:41   ` Kees Cook
2022-02-10 18:58     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2022-02-10 20:43       ` Kees Cook
2022-02-10 22:48         ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11  1:26           ` Kees Cook
2022-02-11  1:47             ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11  2:53               ` Kees Cook
2022-02-11 12:54                 ` Robert Święcki
2022-02-11 17:46                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 18:57                     ` Robert Święcki
2022-02-11 20:01                     ` Kees Cook
2022-02-11 19:58                   ` Kees Cook

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