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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: "Robert Święcki" <robert@swiecki.net>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] signal: HANDLER_EXIT should clear SIGNAL_UNKILLABLE
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 11:58:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AB117FDA-5D7C-4AA6-ACBF-400568CC6196@chromium.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP145phAg3ZSPJw7x2kKVQe86puy-XyKatVoByVoM27RP4aw_g@mail.gmail.com>

On February 11, 2022 4:54:26 AM PST, "Robert Święcki" <robert@swiecki.net> wrote:
>> It's mainly about the exit stuff having never been run before on these
>> kinds of process states, so things don't make sense. For example, on the
>> SIGSYS death, the registers have been rewound for the coredump, so when
>> the exit trace runs on x86 it sees the syscall return value as equal to
>> the syscall number (since %rax is used for the syscall number on entry
>> and for the syscall result on exit). So when a tracer watches a seccomp
>> fatal SIGSYS, it sees the syscall exit before it sees the child exit
>> (and therefore the signal). For example, x86_64 write (syscall number
>> 1), will return as if it had written 1 byte. :P
>>
>> So, it's not harmful, but it's confusing and weird. :)
>>
>> > I am trying to figure out if there is a case to be made that it was a
>> > bug that these events were missing.
>>
>> I don't think so -- the syscall did not finish, so there isn't a valid
>> return code. The process exited before it completed.
>
>A tangential point: please ignore for the purpose of fixing the
>problem at hand. I'm mostly making it, in case it can be taken into
>account in case some bigger changes to this code path are to be made -
>given that it touches the problem of signal delivery.
>
>When I noticed this problem, I was looking for a way to figure out
>what syscall caused SIGSYS (via SECCOMP_RET_KILL_*), and there's no
>easy way to do that programmatically from the perspective of a parent
>process. There are three ways of doing this that come to mind.

I had hoped that the parent could read the SIGSYS siginfo_t from the
child, but I haven't found any way to do this. :( :(

I don't seem to be able to use:

- PTRACE_ATTACH to use PTRACE_PEEKSIGINFO on a dead process.
- signalfd (nothing is in the fd after the exit).

Hmpf.

-- 
Kees Cook


      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-11 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-10  2:53 [PATCH 0/3] signal: HANDLER_EXIT should clear SIGNAL_UNKILLABLE Kees Cook
2022-02-10  2:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Kees Cook
2022-02-10 16:18   ` Jann Horn
2022-02-10 17:37     ` Kees Cook
2022-02-10 18:01       ` Jann Horn
2022-02-10 18:12         ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-10 21:09         ` Kees Cook
2022-02-11 20:15           ` Jann Horn
2022-02-10 18:16   ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-10  2:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] seccomp: Invalidate seccomp mode to catch death failures Kees Cook
2022-02-10  2:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] samples/seccomp: Adjust sample to also provide kill option Kees Cook
2022-02-10 18:17 ` [PATCH 0/3] signal: HANDLER_EXIT should clear SIGNAL_UNKILLABLE Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-10 18:41   ` Kees Cook
2022-02-10 18:58     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-10 20:43       ` Kees Cook
2022-02-10 22:48         ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11  1:26           ` Kees Cook
2022-02-11  1:47             ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11  2:53               ` Kees Cook
2022-02-11 12:54                 ` Robert Święcki
2022-02-11 17:46                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 18:57                     ` Robert Święcki
2022-02-11 20:01                     ` Kees Cook
2022-02-11 19:58                   ` Kees Cook [this message]

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