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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jisheng Zhang <Jisheng.Zhang@synaptics.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzjulienne@suse.de>,
	Yoshihiro Shimoda <yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 19:30:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9773fac5a4d142684ecc87341ebe0b5d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdUUX22D7gV-LtDJ4jcxD=TD6soWzP=gUy4EqdFFAntoGA@mail.gmail.com>

On 2021-01-18 19:16, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Marc,
> 
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 6:59 PM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
>> On 2021-01-18 17:39, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:34 AM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Cyclic dependencies in some firmware was one of the last remaining
>> >> reasons fw_devlink=on couldn't be set by default. Now that cyclic
>> >> dependencies don't block probing, set fw_devlink=on by default.
>> >>
>> >> Setting fw_devlink=on by default brings a bunch of benefits
>> >> (currently,
>> >> only for systems with device tree firmware):
>> >> * Significantly cuts down deferred probes.
>> >> * Device probe is effectively attempted in graph order.
>> >> * Makes it much easier to load drivers as modules without having to
>> >>   worry about functional dependencies between modules (depmod is still
>> >>   needed for symbol dependencies).
>> >>
>> >> If this patch prevents some devices from probing, it's very likely due
>> >> to the system having one or more device drivers that "probe"/set up a
>> >> device (DT node with compatible property) without creating a struct
>> >> device for it.  If we hit such cases, the device drivers need to be
>> >> fixed so that they populate struct devices and probe them like normal
>> >> device drivers so that the driver core is aware of the devices and
>> >> their
>> >> status. See [1] for an example of such a case.
>> >>
>> >> [1] -
>> >> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAGETcx9PiX==mLxB9PO8Myyk6u2vhPVwTMsA5NkD-ywH5xhusw@mail.gmail.com/
>> >> Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
>> >
>> > Shimoda-san reported that next-20210111 and later fail to boot
>> > on Renesas R-Car Gen3 platforms. No output is seen, unless earlycon
>> > is enabled.
>> >
>> > I have bisected this to commit e590474768f1cc04 ("driver core: Set
>> > fw_devlink=on by default").
>> 
>> There is a tentative patch from Saravana here[1], which works around
>> some issues on my RK3399 platform, and it'd be interesting to find
>> out whether that helps on your system.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>>          M.
>> 
>> [1]
>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20210116011412.3211292-1-saravanak@google.com
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion, but given no devices probe (incl. GPIO
> providers), I'm afraid it won't help. [testing] Indeed.
> 
> With the debug prints in device_links_check_suppliers enabled, and
> some postprocessing, I get:
> 
>     255 supplier e6180000.system-controller not ready
>       9 supplier fe990000.iommu not ready
>       9 supplier fe980000.iommu not ready
>       6 supplier febd0000.iommu not ready
>       6 supplier ec670000.iommu not ready
>       3 supplier febe0000.iommu not ready
>       3 supplier e7740000.iommu not ready
>       3 supplier e6740000.iommu not ready
>       3 supplier e65ee000.usb-phy not ready
>       3 supplier e6570000.iommu not ready
>       3 supplier e6054000.gpio not ready
>       3 supplier e6053000.gpio not ready
> 
> As everything is part of a PM Domain, the (lack of the) system 
> controller
> must be the culprit. What's wrong with it? It is registered very early 
> in
> the boot:
> 
> [    0.142096] rcar_sysc_pd_init:442: of_genpd_add_provider_onecell() 
> returned 0

Yeah, this looks like the exact same problem. The devlink stuff assumes
that because there is a "compatible" property, there will be a driver
directly associated with the node containing this property.

If any other node has a reference to that first node, the dependency
will only get resolved if/when that first node is bound to a driver.
Trouble is, there are *tons* of code in the tree that invalidate
this heuristic, and for each occurrence of this we get another failure.

The patch I referred to papers over it by registering a dummy driver,
but that doesn't scale easily...

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-18 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-18  3:16 [PATCH v1 0/5] Enable fw_devlink=on by default Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] driver core: Add debug logs for device link related probe deferrals Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] driver core: Add device link support for INFERRED flag Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] driver core: Have fw_devlink use DL_FLAG_INFERRED Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] driver core: Handle cycles in device links created by fw_devlink Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  6:39   ` kernel test robot
2020-12-18  6:39   ` [RFC PATCH] driver core: fw_devlink_relax_cycle() can be static kernel test robot
2020-12-18  6:48   ` [PATCH v1 4/5] driver core: Handle cycles in device links created by fw_devlink kernel test robot
2020-12-18  7:12   ` kernel test robot
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default Saravana Kannan
     [not found]   ` <CGME20210111111245eucas1p15acde7ecc2ca7f7782beb8ed74c72022@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2021-01-11 11:12     ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]       ` <CGME20210111141814eucas1p1f388df07b789693a999042b27f0d8c2a@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2021-01-11 14:18         ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-11 21:47           ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-12  7:11             ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-12 20:51               ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13  7:04                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-13 19:23                   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14  7:36                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-14 18:08                       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-18 17:43                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-17 23:01   ` Michael Walle
2021-01-18 21:01     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19 10:41       ` Michael Walle
2021-01-20  0:00         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-18 17:39   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-18 17:59     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-18 19:16       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-18 19:30         ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2021-01-18 21:18         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19  9:05           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-19 18:08             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19 21:50               ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-20  9:40                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20 14:26                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20 17:22                     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 16:04                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-25 23:30                         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-26  8:25                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20  9:11               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-21  8:22   ` [TEST PATCH v1] driver: core: Make fw_devlink=on more forgiving Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21  8:27     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 10:37       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-22  1:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 10:33     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-25 17:05   ` [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default Tudor.Ambarus
2021-01-25 18:16     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-28 10:59       ` Tudor.Ambarus
2021-01-28 17:04         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10  5:54   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-10  8:20     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 15:10       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-10 20:52         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 21:21           ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-17  2:39             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-17  3:05               ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-17  3:13                 ` Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18 21:11 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] Enable " Saravana Kannan
2020-12-21  8:18 ` Jisheng Zhang
     [not found]   ` <CAHp75VfqL1QuvjCZ7p23e_2qhY3DUgVNaS--Uk1mEoEHsD8GBA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-14 16:49     ` Saravana Kannan
2020-12-21  9:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-01-07 20:05 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-01-07 21:53   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:11   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-13 15:27     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-13 21:29       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 11:34         ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:40           ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:47             ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:52               ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 18:55                 ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 21:50                   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-15 16:12                     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-15 17:44                       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 20:56     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:30 ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-13 21:26   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:11     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:47       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:56         ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-28 15:03           ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-28 17:27             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11  0:02             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11 15:03               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-02-11 17:14                 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11 17:48                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-02-12  3:04                     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:44 ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2021-01-13 11:48   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-13 21:27     ` Saravana Kannan

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