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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jisheng Zhang <Jisheng.Zhang@synaptics.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzjulienne@suse.de>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	linux-tegra <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/5] Enable fw_devlink=on by default
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 18:48:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0g+cd_r=UzzEXAQAqVnVyN3czv4WCyBib5=e2a4X53VNA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGETcx9qA-nq01ojfP73UJ0KjJCxd3Qhes0hatQGzNKYxuUj-w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 6:15 PM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 7:03 AM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 1:02 AM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 7:03 AM Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 14/01/2021 16:56, Jon Hunter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 14/01/2021 16:47, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > >>> Yes this is the warning shown here [0] and this is coming from
> > > > >>> the 'Generic PHY stmmac-0:00' device.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Can you print the supplier and consumer device when this warning is
> > > > >> happening and let me know? That'd help too. I'm guessing the phy is
> > > > >> the consumer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry I should have included that. I added a print to dump this on
> > > > > another build but failed to include here.
> > > > >
> > > > > WARNING KERN Generic PHY stmmac-0:00: supplier 2200000.gpio (status 1)
> > > > >
> > > > > The status is the link->status and looks like the supplier is the
> > > > > gpio controller. I have verified that the gpio controller is probed
> > > > > before this successfully.
> > > > >
> > > > >> So the warning itself isn't a problem -- it's not breaking anything or
> > > > >> leaking memory or anything like that. But the device link is jumping
> > > > >> states in an incorrect manner. With enough context of this code (why
> > > > >> the device_bind_driver() is being called directly instead of going
> > > > >> through the normal probe path), it should be easy to fix (I'll just
> > > > >> need to fix up the device link state).
> > > > >
> > > > > Correct, the board seems to boot fine, we just get this warning.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Have you had chance to look at this further?
> > >
> > > Hi Jon,
> > >
> > > I finally got around to looking into this. Here's the email[1] that
> > > describes why it's done this way.
> > >
> > > [1] - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YCRjmpKjK0pxKTCP@lunn.ch/
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The following does appear to avoid the warning, but I am not sure if
> > > > this is the correct thing to do ...
> > > >
> > > > index 9179825ff646..095aba84f7c2 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/base/dd.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/base/dd.c
> > > > @@ -456,6 +456,10 @@ int device_bind_driver(struct device *dev)
> > > >  {
> > > >         int ret;
> > > >
> > > > +       ret = device_links_check_suppliers(dev);
> > > > +       if (ret)
> > > > +               return ret;
> > > > +
> > > >         ret = driver_sysfs_add(dev);
> > > >         if (!ret)
> > > >                 driver_bound(dev);
> > >
> > > So digging deeper into the usage of device_bind_driver and looking at
> > > [1], it doesn't look like returning an error here is a good option.
> > > When device_bind_driver() is called, the driver's probe function isn't
> > > even called. So, there's no way for the driver to even defer probing
> > > based on any of the suppliers. So, we have a couple of options:
> > >
> > > 1. Delete all the links to suppliers that haven't bound.
> >
> > Or maybe convert them to stateless links?  Would that be doable at all?
>
> Yeah, I think it should be doable.
>
> >
> > > We'll still leave the links to active suppliers alone in case it helps with
> > > suspend/resume correctness.
> > > 2. Fix the warning to not warn on suppliers that haven't probed if the
> > > device's driver has no probe function. But this will also need fixing
> > > up the cleanup part when device_release_driver() is called. Also, I'm
> > > not sure if device_bind_driver() is ever called when the driver
> > > actually has a probe() function.
> > >
> > > Rafael,
> > >
> > > Option 1 above is pretty straightforward.
> >
> > I would prefer this ->
>
> Ok
>
> >
> > > Option 2 would look something like what's at the end of this email +
> > > caveat about whether the probe check is sufficient.
> >
> > -> because "fix the warning" really means that we haven't got the
> > device link state machine right and getting it right may imply a major
> > redesign.
> >
> > Overall, I'd prefer to take a step back and allow things to stabilize
> > for a while to let people catch up with this.
>
> Are you referring to if/when we implement Option 2? Or do you want to
> step back for a while even before implementing Option 1?

I would do option 1 and if then see what happens and maybe go back
from there if need be until getting a reasonably stable situation
(that is all of the systems that used to work before still work at
least).

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-11 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-18  3:16 [PATCH v1 0/5] Enable fw_devlink=on by default Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] driver core: Add debug logs for device link related probe deferrals Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] driver core: Add device link support for INFERRED flag Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] driver core: Have fw_devlink use DL_FLAG_INFERRED Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] driver core: Handle cycles in device links created by fw_devlink Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18  6:39   ` kernel test robot
2020-12-18  6:39   ` [RFC PATCH] driver core: fw_devlink_relax_cycle() can be static kernel test robot
2020-12-18  6:48   ` [PATCH v1 4/5] driver core: Handle cycles in device links created by fw_devlink kernel test robot
2020-12-18  7:12   ` kernel test robot
2020-12-18  3:17 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default Saravana Kannan
     [not found]   ` <CGME20210111111245eucas1p15acde7ecc2ca7f7782beb8ed74c72022@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2021-01-11 11:12     ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]       ` <CGME20210111141814eucas1p1f388df07b789693a999042b27f0d8c2a@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2021-01-11 14:18         ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-11 21:47           ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-12  7:11             ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-12 20:51               ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13  7:04                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-13 19:23                   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14  7:36                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-14 18:08                       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-18 17:43                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-17 23:01   ` Michael Walle
2021-01-18 21:01     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19 10:41       ` Michael Walle
2021-01-20  0:00         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-18 17:39   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-18 17:59     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-18 19:16       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-18 19:30         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-18 21:18         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19  9:05           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-19 18:08             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-19 21:50               ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-20  9:40                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20 14:26                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20 17:22                     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 16:04                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-25 23:30                         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-26  8:25                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-20  9:11               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-21  8:22   ` [TEST PATCH v1] driver: core: Make fw_devlink=on more forgiving Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21  8:27     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 10:37       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-22  1:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-21 10:33     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-01-25 17:05   ` [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Set fw_devlink=on by default Tudor.Ambarus
2021-01-25 18:16     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-28 10:59       ` Tudor.Ambarus
2021-01-28 17:04         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10  5:54   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-10  8:20     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 15:10       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-10 20:52         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 21:21           ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-17  2:39             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-17  3:05               ` Guenter Roeck
2021-02-17  3:13                 ` Saravana Kannan
2020-12-18 21:11 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] Enable " Saravana Kannan
2020-12-21  8:18 ` Jisheng Zhang
     [not found]   ` <CAHp75VfqL1QuvjCZ7p23e_2qhY3DUgVNaS--Uk1mEoEHsD8GBA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-14 16:49     ` Saravana Kannan
2020-12-21  9:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-01-07 20:05 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-01-07 21:53   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:11   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-13 15:27     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-13 21:29       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 11:34         ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:40           ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:47             ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:52               ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 18:55                 ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 21:50                   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-15 16:12                     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-15 17:44                       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 20:56     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:30 ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-13 21:26   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:11     ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-14 16:47       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-14 16:56         ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-28 15:03           ` Jon Hunter
2021-01-28 17:27             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11  0:02             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11 15:03               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-02-11 17:14                 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11 17:48                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2021-02-12  3:04                     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-01-13 11:44 ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2021-01-13 11:48   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-01-13 21:27     ` Saravana Kannan

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