From: Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
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Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 10/12] ptrace,seccomp: Add PTRACE_SECCOMP support
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:33:35 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABqD9hZLi416irXMMPmysYohrOn1gQjhjDyKTggU80Kd7ywvcA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120229161437.GA3078@redhat.com>
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 02/28, Will Drewry wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Great. In this case this patch becomes really trivial. Just 2 defines
>> >> in ptrace.h and the unconditional ptrace_event() under SECCOMP_RET_TRACE.
>>
>> hrm the only snag is that I can't then rely on TIF_SYSCALL_TRACE to
>> ensure seccomp is in the slow-path. Right now, on x86, seccomp is
>> slow-path, but it doesn't have to be to have the syscall and args.
>> However, for ptrace to behavior properly, I believed it did need to be
>> in the slow path. If SECCOMP_RET_TRACE doesn't rely on
>> PTRACE_SYSCALL, then it introduces a need for seccomp to always be in
>> the slow path or to flag (somehow) when it needs slow path.
>
> My understanding of this magic is very limited, and I'm afraid
> I misunderstood... So please correct me.
>
> But what is the problem? system_call checks _TIF_WORK_SYSCALL_ENTRY
> which includes _TIF_SECCOMP | _TIF_SYSCALL_TRACE, and jumps to
> tracesys which does SAVE_REST.
>
> Anyway. secure_computing() is called by syscall_trace_enter() which
> also calls tracehook_report_syscall_entry(). If SECCOMP_RET_TRACE
> can't do ptrace_event() then why tracehook_report_syscall_entry() is
> fine?
Early on in this patch series, I was urged away from regviews (for
many reasons), one of them was so that seccomp could, at some point,
be fast-path'd like audit is for x86. (It may be on arm already, I'd
need to check.) So I was hoping that I could avoid adding a slow-path
dependency to the seccomp code.
Right now, on x86, you are exactly right: Both seccomp and ptrace take
the slow path as part of _TIF_WORK_SYSCALL_ENTRY, and seccomp is only
called in syscall_trace_enter. By adding a requirement for the
slow-path in the form of ptrace_event(), the difficulty for making
seccomp fast-path friendly is increased. (It could be possible to add
a return code, e.g., return NEEDS_SLOW_PATH, which tells the fast path
code to restart the handling at syscall_trace_enter, so maybe I am
making a big deal out of nothing.)
I was hoping to avoid having TIF_SECCOMP imply the slow-path, but if
that is the only sane way to integrate, then I can leave making it
fast-path friendly as a future exercise.
If I'm over-optimizing, just say so, and I'll post the v12 with the
docs updated to indicate that, at present, seccomp filters requires
the slow path. However, if you see a nice way to avoid the
dependency, I'd love to know!
Thanks!
will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-29 16:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-25 3:21 [PATCH v11 01/12] sk_run_filter: add support for custom load_pointer Will Drewry
2012-02-25 3:21 ` [PATCH v11 02/12] net/compat.c,linux/filter.h: share compat_sock_fprog Will Drewry
2012-02-25 3:21 ` [PATCH v11 03/12] seccomp: kill the seccomp_t typedef Will Drewry
2012-02-25 3:21 ` [PATCH v11 04/12] asm/syscall.h: add syscall_get_arch Will Drewry
2012-02-25 3:21 ` [PATCH v11 05/12] arch/x86: add syscall_get_arch to syscall.h Will Drewry
2012-02-25 3:21 ` [PATCH v11 06/12] seccomp: add system call filtering using BPF Will Drewry
2012-02-26 20:28 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-27 16:23 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-27 16:49 ` Eric Paris
2012-02-27 18:55 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-27 19:25 ` Eric Paris
2012-02-27 20:00 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-27 20:34 ` Eric Paris
2012-02-27 20:49 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-27 17:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-27 19:54 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-27 20:15 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-28 15:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-28 17:18 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-28 6:51 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-28 7:52 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-28 17:17 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-28 17:47 ` Markus Gutschke
2012-02-25 3:21 ` [PATCH v11 07/12] seccomp: add SECCOMP_RET_ERRNO Will Drewry
2012-02-25 20:20 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-27 16:22 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-27 17:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-27 18:09 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-27 18:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-27 18:35 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-02-27 19:14 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-27 19:54 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-25 3:21 ` [PATCH v11 08/12] signal, x86: add SIGSYS info and make it synchronous Will Drewry
2012-02-27 17:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-27 17:34 ` Roland McGrath
2012-02-27 18:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-27 20:24 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-28 16:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-28 17:06 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-25 3:21 ` [PATCH v11 09/12] seccomp: Add SECCOMP_RET_TRAP Will Drewry
2012-02-25 3:21 ` [PATCH v11 10/12] ptrace,seccomp: Add PTRACE_SECCOMP support Will Drewry
2012-02-27 17:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-27 19:47 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-28 16:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-28 17:04 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-28 18:34 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-29 16:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-29 16:33 ` Will Drewry [this message]
2012-02-29 17:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-29 17:41 ` Roland McGrath
2012-02-29 17:51 ` Will Drewry
2012-02-25 3:21 ` [PATCH v11 11/12] x86: Enable HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER Will Drewry
2012-02-25 3:21 ` [PATCH v11 12/12] Documentation: prctl/seccomp_filter Will Drewry
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