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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-security@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chun-Yi Lee <jlee@suse.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V33 24/30] bpf: Restrict bpf when kernel lockdown is in confidentiality mode
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:05:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACdnJuv2sePuGBtTM6UL4S2k1UATcAk517o6vPx2EWF0Uxt8iw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVUwQP7roLnW6kFG80Cc5U6X_T6AW+BTAftLccYGp8+Ow@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 10:22 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 6:21 PM Matthew Garrett
> <matthewgarrett@google.com> wrote:
> > --- a/security/lockdown/lockdown.c
> > +++ b/security/lockdown/lockdown.c
> > @@ -33,6 +33,7 @@ static char *lockdown_reasons[LOCKDOWN_CONFIDENTIALITY_MAX+1] = {
> >         [LOCKDOWN_INTEGRITY_MAX] = "integrity",
> >         [LOCKDOWN_KCORE] = "/proc/kcore access",
> >         [LOCKDOWN_KPROBES] = "use of kprobes",
> > +       [LOCKDOWN_BPF] = "use of bpf",
> >         [LOCKDOWN_CONFIDENTIALITY_MAX] = "confidentiality",
>
> The text here says "use of bpf", but what this patch is *really* doing
> is locking down use of BPF to read kernel memory.  If the details
> change, then every LSM needs to get updated, and we risk breaking user
> policies that are based on LSMs that offer excessively fine
> granularity.

The text is descriptive rather than normative, and no changes should
be made that alter the semantics of a reason - it makes more sense to
just add another reason.

> I'd be more comfortable if the LSM only got to see "confidentiality"
> or "integrity".

If LSM authors can be trusted to do the right thing here, then I see
no problem in providing additional data. I'm happy to defer to James
on that.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-21 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-21  1:19 [PATCH V33 00/30] Lockdown as an LSM Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 01/30] security: Support early LSMs Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  3:21   ` Kees Cook
2019-06-21 19:26     ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  5:23   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-21 19:27     ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 02/30] security: Add a "locked down" LSM hook Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  3:23   ` Kees Cook
2019-06-21 19:29     ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 03/30] security: Add a static lockdown policy LSM Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  3:44   ` Kees Cook
2019-06-21 19:37     ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21 21:04       ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21 22:31   ` Mimi Zohar
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 04/30] Enforce module signatures if the kernel is locked down Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  3:46   ` Kees Cook
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 05/30] Restrict /dev/{mem,kmem,port} when " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 06/30] kexec_load: Disable at runtime if " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 07/30] Copy secure_boot flag in boot params across kexec reboot Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 08/30] kexec_file: split KEXEC_VERIFY_SIG into KEXEC_SIG and KEXEC_SIG_FORCE Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 09/30] kexec_file: Restrict at runtime if the kernel is locked down Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 10/30] hibernate: Disable when " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 11/30] uswsusp: " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 12/30] PCI: Lock down BAR access " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 13/30] x86: Lock down IO port " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 14/30] x86/msr: Restrict MSR " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 15/30] ACPI: Limit access to custom_method " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 16/30] acpi: Ignore acpi_rsdp kernel param when the kernel has been " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 17/30] acpi: Disable ACPI table override if the kernel is " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 18/30] Prohibit PCMCIA CIS storage when " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 19/30] Lock down TIOCSSERIAL Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 20/30] Lock down module params that specify hardware parameters (eg. ioport) Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 21/30] x86/mmiotrace: Lock down the testmmiotrace module Matthew Garrett
2019-06-26 12:46   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 22/30] Lock down /proc/kcore Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 23/30] Lock down tracing and perf kprobes when in confidentiality mode Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 24/30] bpf: Restrict bpf when kernel lockdown is " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  5:22   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-21 20:05     ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2019-06-26 20:22     ` James Morris
2019-06-27  0:57       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-27 14:35         ` Stephen Smalley
2019-06-27 18:06           ` James Morris
2019-06-27 20:16             ` Stephen Smalley
2019-06-27 23:16               ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-27 23:23                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-27 23:27           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-28 18:47             ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-29 23:47               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 25/30] Lock down perf when " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 26/30] kexec: Allow kexec_file() with appropriate IMA policy when locked down Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 27/30] lockdown: Print current->comm in restriction messages Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  4:09   ` Kees Cook
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 28/30] debugfs: Restrict debugfs when the kernel is locked down Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 29/30] tracefs: Restrict tracefs " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-26 13:07   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-06-26 19:39     ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 30/30] efi: Restrict efivar_ssdt_load " Matthew Garrett

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