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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Garrett <matthewgarrett@google.com>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-security@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V33 01/30] security: Support early LSMs
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:23:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrX87W4FE1xHF_W4=Do25Ci=LJxnvxNHMs9CTOFo4988aw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190621011941.186255-2-matthewgarrett@google.com>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 6:22 PM Matthew Garrett
<matthewgarrett@google.com> wrote:
>
> The lockdown module is intended to allow for kernels to be locked down
> early in boot - sufficiently early that we don't have the ability to
> kmalloc() yet. Add support for early initialisation of some LSMs, and
> then add them to the list of names when we do full initialisation later.

I'm confused.  What does it even mean to lock down the kernel before
we're ready to run userspace code?  We can't possibly be attacked by
user code before there is any to attack us.

Am I missing something here?

--Andy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-21  5:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-21  1:19 [PATCH V33 00/30] Lockdown as an LSM Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 01/30] security: Support early LSMs Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  3:21   ` Kees Cook
2019-06-21 19:26     ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  5:23   ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2019-06-21 19:27     ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 02/30] security: Add a "locked down" LSM hook Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  3:23   ` Kees Cook
2019-06-21 19:29     ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 03/30] security: Add a static lockdown policy LSM Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  3:44   ` Kees Cook
2019-06-21 19:37     ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21 21:04       ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21 22:31   ` Mimi Zohar
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 04/30] Enforce module signatures if the kernel is locked down Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  3:46   ` Kees Cook
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 05/30] Restrict /dev/{mem,kmem,port} when " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 06/30] kexec_load: Disable at runtime if " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 07/30] Copy secure_boot flag in boot params across kexec reboot Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 08/30] kexec_file: split KEXEC_VERIFY_SIG into KEXEC_SIG and KEXEC_SIG_FORCE Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 09/30] kexec_file: Restrict at runtime if the kernel is locked down Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 10/30] hibernate: Disable when " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 11/30] uswsusp: " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 12/30] PCI: Lock down BAR access " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 13/30] x86: Lock down IO port " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 14/30] x86/msr: Restrict MSR " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 15/30] ACPI: Limit access to custom_method " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 16/30] acpi: Ignore acpi_rsdp kernel param when the kernel has been " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 17/30] acpi: Disable ACPI table override if the kernel is " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 18/30] Prohibit PCMCIA CIS storage when " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 19/30] Lock down TIOCSSERIAL Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 20/30] Lock down module params that specify hardware parameters (eg. ioport) Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 21/30] x86/mmiotrace: Lock down the testmmiotrace module Matthew Garrett
2019-06-26 12:46   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 22/30] Lock down /proc/kcore Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 23/30] Lock down tracing and perf kprobes when in confidentiality mode Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 24/30] bpf: Restrict bpf when kernel lockdown is " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  5:22   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-21 20:05     ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-26 20:22     ` James Morris
2019-06-27  0:57       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-27 14:35         ` Stephen Smalley
2019-06-27 18:06           ` James Morris
2019-06-27 20:16             ` Stephen Smalley
2019-06-27 23:16               ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-27 23:23                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-27 23:27           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-28 18:47             ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-29 23:47               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 25/30] Lock down perf when " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 26/30] kexec: Allow kexec_file() with appropriate IMA policy when locked down Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 27/30] lockdown: Print current->comm in restriction messages Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  4:09   ` Kees Cook
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 28/30] debugfs: Restrict debugfs when the kernel is locked down Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 29/30] tracefs: Restrict tracefs " Matthew Garrett
2019-06-26 13:07   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-06-26 19:39     ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21  1:19 ` [PATCH V33 30/30] efi: Restrict efivar_ssdt_load " Matthew Garrett

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