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From: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: pavel@ucw.cz, Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rppt@linux.ibm.com, Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	guro@fb.com, rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, dennisszhou@gmail.com,
	pdhamdhe@redhat.com,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Document /proc/pid PID reuse behavior
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 08:37:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJWu+orh1imt2iNWQeF+o=uZ-4W=sp4TRzZGi+cO8SectEa0vQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1c5caa66-3c61-cb57-754a-f099200c73b2@suse.cz>

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 1:05 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On 11/19/18 11:54 AM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Mon 2018-11-05 13:22:05, Daniel Colascione wrote:
> >> State explicitly that holding a /proc/pid file descriptor open does
> >> not reserve the PID. Also note that in the event of PID reuse, these
> >> open file descriptors refer to the old, now-dead process, and not the
> >> new one that happens to be named the same numeric PID.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>
> >> ---
> >>  Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt | 7 +++++++
> >>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> Moved paragraphed to start of /proc/pid section; added signed-off-by.
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
> >> index 12a5e6e693b6..0b14460f721d 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
> >> +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
> >> @@ -125,6 +125,13 @@ process running on the system, which is named after the process ID (PID).
> >>  The link  self  points  to  the  process reading the file system. Each process
> >>  subdirectory has the entries listed in Table 1-1.
> >>
> >> +Note that an open a file descriptor to /proc/<pid> or to any of its
> >> +contained files or subdirectories does not prevent <pid> being reused
> >> +for some other process in the event that <pid> exits. Operations on
> >
> > "does not" -> "may not"?
> >
> > We want to leave this unspecified, so that we can change it in future.
>
> Why can't the documentation describe the current implementation, and
> change in the future if the implementation changes? I doubt somebody
> would ever rely on the pid being reused while having the descriptor
> open. How would that make sense?
>

Agreed. I am also of the opinion that this should be documented.

 - Joel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-20 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-31 15:06 [PATCH] Document /proc/pid PID reuse behavior Daniel Colascione
2018-11-01  7:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2018-11-05 13:22 ` [PATCH v2] " Daniel Colascione
2018-11-06  6:01   ` Mike Rapoport
2018-11-07 17:16     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-07 18:21       ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-06 13:05   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-07 15:48     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-07 16:00       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-07 16:10         ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-07 16:19           ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 11:16           ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-11-07 17:04         ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-11-08 12:02           ` David Laight
2018-11-08 12:27             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-08 13:42               ` David Laight
2018-11-08 14:07                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-08 14:14                   ` David Laight
2018-11-08 13:25           ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 10:54   ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-19 16:24     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-20  8:50       ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-20  9:05     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-20  9:18       ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-20 17:39         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-20 17:48           ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-20 17:59             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-20 16:37       ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2018-11-20 16:49       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-20 16:57         ` Pavel Machek

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