From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Samuel Neves <sneves@dei.uc.pt>,
Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com>,
Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 02/17] zinc: introduce minimal cryptography library
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 09:55:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu-JVLCbMuqFzsdC5TwOu0_jS4OeekD_GQcunV_7zGxAbQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180918203658.GA28723@zx2c4.com>
On 18 September 2018 at 13:36, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
> Hi Ard,
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 11:53:11AM -0700, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>> On 17 September 2018 at 08:52, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Ard,
>> >
>>
>> Given that you show no interest whatsoever in gaining an understanding
>> of the underlying requirements that we have to deal with in the crypto
>> API, the only way to get my point across is by repeatedly stating it
>
> Sorry if I've come across that way, but I am certainly interested in
> gaining such an understanding of said requirements.
>
Excellent.
So you are probably aware that there is a big push in the industry
these days towards high-performance accelerators on a coherent fabric,
potentially with device side caches, and this is the main reason that
the crypto API abstractions are the way they are today.
So while standardizing on Chacha20Poly1305 in WireGuard [while still a
policy decision in my view] seems reasonable to me, the decision to
limit WireGuard to synchronous software implementations seems to me
like something we may want to revisit in the future. What is your view
on that? And is the ChaCha20/Poly1305 AEAD construction in WireGuard
identical to the one in RFC 7539, i.e., could an accelerator built for
the IPsec flavor of ChaCha20Poly1305 potentially be reused for
WireGuard?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-19 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-11 1:08 [PATCH net-next v3 00/17] WireGuard: Secure Network Tunnel Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 01/17] asm: simd context helper API Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-12 6:14 ` Kevin Easton
2018-09-12 18:10 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 5:03 ` Kevin Easton
2018-09-13 13:52 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 13:53 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-15 19:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-15 20:01 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 13:14 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 02/17] zinc: introduce minimal cryptography library Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 10:08 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-11 14:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-09-11 21:47 ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-11 22:02 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 23:30 ` Andrew Lunn
2018-09-11 23:57 ` David Miller
2018-09-12 0:02 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 4:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 4:45 ` David Miller
2018-09-17 14:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 14:59 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 5:07 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 14:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 14:59 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 16:24 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-18 16:06 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-18 16:45 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 5:26 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-17 14:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 15:28 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 16:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 16:17 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 15:31 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 16:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 16:16 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 16:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-18 0:56 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 15:52 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-18 4:21 ` Herbert Xu
2018-09-18 4:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-18 18:53 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-18 20:36 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-19 16:55 ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2018-09-11 22:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-11 22:18 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 23:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-12 0:01 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-12 4:29 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 21:22 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-12 22:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-12 23:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-13 5:41 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-13 14:32 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 15:42 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-13 15:58 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-14 6:15 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-14 9:53 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 6:39 ` Milan Broz
2018-09-13 14:34 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 15:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-13 14:18 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 15:07 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-13 14:15 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 15:04 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-13 15:45 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 22:08 ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-12 18:16 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-12 18:19 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-12 18:34 ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-14 6:21 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 03/17] zinc: ChaCha20 generic C implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 04/17] zinc: ChaCha20 ARM and ARM64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 05/17] zinc: ChaCha20 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 8:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-11 9:00 ` Samuel Neves
2018-09-11 9:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-11 21:12 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 21:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-11 21:28 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 21:48 ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-11 22:04 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 06/17] zinc: ChaCha20 MIPS32r2 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/17] zinc: Poly1305 generic C implementation and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:17 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/17] zinc: Poly1305 generic C implementations " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 08/17] zinc: Poly1305 ARM and ARM64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 09/17] zinc: Poly1305 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 10/17] zinc: Poly1305 MIPS32r2 and MIPS64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 11/17] zinc: ChaCha20Poly1305 construction and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 12/17] zinc: BLAKE2s generic C implementation " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 13/17] zinc: BLAKE2s x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 14/17] zinc: Curve25519 generic C implementations and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 15/17] zinc: Curve25519 ARM implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 16/17] zinc: Curve25519 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 17/17] net: WireGuard secure network tunnel Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 12:59 ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-11 20:53 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 13:17 ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-11 21:05 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 13:30 ` Andrew Lunn
2018-09-11 21:08 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 21:55 ` Andrew Lunn
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