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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
To: "Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	David Zhou <David1.Zhou@amd.com>,
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	Michel Daenzer <michel.daenzer@amd.com>,
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	Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] drm: disable WC optimization for cache coherent devices on non-x86
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 18:59:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu8OkbHwY5UBxahpQpM_gKh2331pQ6o-4YyJdLurbFNHvw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59ccf85d-b99d-b5c8-ea87-66c2a892e197@daenzer.net>

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 18:55, Michel Dänzer <michel@daenzer.net> wrote:
>
> On 2019-01-21 5:30 p.m., Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 17:22, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Until that happens we should just change the driver ifdefs to default
> >> the hacks to off and only enable them on setups where we 100%
> >> positively know that they actually work.  And document that fact
> >> in big fat comments.
> >
> > Well, as I mentioned in my commit log as well, if we default to off
> > unless CONFIG_X86, we may break working setups on MIPS and Power where
> > the device is in fact non-cache coherent, and relies on this
> > 'optimization' to get things working.
>
> FWIW, the amdgpu driver doesn't rely on non-snooped transfers for
> correct basic operation (the scenario Christian brought up is a very
> specialized use-case), so that shouldn't be an issue.
>

The point is that this is only true for x86.

On other architectures, the use of non-cached mappings on the CPU side
means that you /do/ rely on non-snooped transfers, since if those
transfers turn out not to snoop inadvertently, the accesses are
incoherent with the CPU's view of memory.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-21 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-21 10:06 [RFC PATCH] drm: disable WC optimization for cache coherent devices on non-x86 Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 10:11 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-21 15:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 15:33   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 15:59     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 16:14       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 16:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 16:30           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 16:35             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 16:50               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 17:55             ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 17:59               ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2019-01-21 18:04                 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 18:20                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 18:23                     ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 18:28                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 19:04                         ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 19:18                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-22  8:38                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-22 20:56                             ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-22 21:07                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-23  7:15                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-23  9:08                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-23 16:44                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-23 16:52                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24  9:13                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-24  9:25                                           ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24  9:28                                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24  9:45                                               ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24  9:59                                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 11:23                                                   ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24 11:26                                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 11:37                                                       ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24 11:45                                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 13:54                                                           ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-24 13:57                                                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 14:00                                                               ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-24 16:04                                                           ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-24  9:31                                         ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-24  9:37                                           ` Ard Biesheuvel

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