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From: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Ryan Lortie <desrt@desrt.ca>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
	Daniel Mack <zonque@gmail.com>, Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Tony Battersby <tonyb@cybernetics.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create()
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:26:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANq1E4SGFoq1POtrP9DD91=3nbswELK9TH49_XkjE=Wwym4f+w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53A030E9.7010701@redhat.com>

Hi

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 06/17/2014 12:10 PM, David Herrmann wrote:
>
>>>> The file might have holes, therefore, you'd have to allocate backing
>>>> pages. This might hit a soft-limit and fail. To avoid this, use
>>>> fallocate() to allocate pages prior to mmap()
>>>
>>>
>>> This does not work because the consuming side does not know how the
>>> descriptor was set up if sealing does not imply that.
>>
>>
>> The consuming side has to very seals via F_GET_SEALS. After that, it
>> shall do a simple fallocate() on the whole file if it wants to go sure
>> that all pages are allocated. Why shouldn't that be possible? Please
>> elaborate.
>
>
> Hmm.  You permit general fallocate even for WRITE seals.  That's really
> unexpected.

SEAL_WRITE prevents modifications of file-content. fallocate() does
not modify file-contents, so I think it's not unexpected that
fallocate() is still allowed.

> The inode_newsize_ok check in shmem_fallocate can result in SIGXFSZ, which
> doesn't seem to be what's intended here.

It can only result in SIGXFSZ if you _increase_ the file-size with
fallocate(). You shouldn't do that if you only verify that holes are
allocated. Hence, a simple fallocate(st.st_size) cannot result in
SIGXFSZ. Obviously, this requires SEAL_SHRINK to prevent the remote
site to shrink the file while you call fallocate(). But SEAL_WRITE
usually goes together with SEAL_SHRINK for obvious reasons.

> Will the new pages attributed to the process calling fallocate, or to the
> process calling memfd_create?

Pages are always allocated by the caller and charged on current->mm
(current process).

Thanks
David

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-17 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-13 10:36 [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create() David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mm: allow drivers to prevent new writable mappings David Herrmann
2014-07-09  8:55   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:12     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] shm: add sealing API David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:06   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:17     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] shm: add memfd_create() syscall David Herrmann
2014-06-13 12:27   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-06-13 12:41     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 14:20       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-06-13 16:20         ` John Stultz
2014-06-16  4:12           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-07-08 18:39         ` David Herrmann
2014-06-15 10:50   ` Jann Horn
2014-07-16 10:07   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:29     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] selftests: add memfd_create() + sealing tests David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:07   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:31     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] selftests: add memfd/sealing page-pinning tests David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:08   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:32     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [RFC v3 6/7] shm: wait for pins to be released when sealing David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:09   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:36     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [RFC v3 7/7] shm: isolate pinned pages when sealing files David Herrmann
2014-06-13 15:06   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-13 15:27     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 17:23       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-09  8:57   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:40     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create() Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-13 15:15   ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 15:17     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-13 15:33       ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17  9:54         ` Florian Weimer
2014-06-17 10:01           ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 10:04             ` Florian Weimer
2014-06-17 10:10               ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 12:13                 ` Florian Weimer
2014-06-17 13:26                   ` David Herrmann [this message]
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrVpZ0vFM4usHK+tQhk234Y2jWzB1522kGcGvdQQFAqsZQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-06-17 16:36               ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 16:41                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-17 16:51                   ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 17:01                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-17 20:31                       ` Hugh Dickins
2014-06-17 21:25                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-08 16:54 ` David Herrmann
2014-07-09  8:53   ` Hugh Dickins

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