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From: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Ryan Lortie <desrt@desrt.ca>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
	Daniel Mack <zonque@gmail.com>, Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Tony Battersby <tonyb@cybernetics.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create()
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 17:15:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANq1E4SaWLD=hNEc-CDJbNnrGfXE_PkxZFBhpW4tbK7wor7xPA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVoE+JO2rLsBUHAOJdvescEEjxikj8iQ339Nxfopfc7pw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:36 AM, David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> This is v3 of the File-Sealing and memfd_create() patches. You can find v1 with
>> a longer introduction at gmane:
>>   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/102241
>> An LWN article about memfd+sealing is available, too:
>>   https://lwn.net/Articles/593918/
>> v2 with some more discussions can be found here:
>>   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/115713
>>
>> This series introduces two new APIs:
>>   memfd_create(): Think of this syscall as malloc() but it returns a
>>                   file-descriptor instead of a pointer. That file-descriptor is
>>                   backed by anon-memory and can be memory-mapped for access.
>>   sealing: The sealing API can be used to prevent a specific set of operations
>>            on a file-descriptor. You 'seal' the file and give thus the
>>            guarantee, that it cannot be modified in the specific ways.
>>
>> A short high-level introduction is also available here:
>>   http://dvdhrm.wordpress.com/2014/06/10/memfd_create2/
>
> Potentially silly question: is it guaranteed that mmapping and reading
> a SEAL_SHRINKed fd within size bounds will not SIGBUS?  If so, should
> this be documented?  (The particular issue here would be reading
> holes.  It should work by using the zero page, but, if so, we should
> probably make it a real documented guarantee.)

No, this is not guaranteed. See the previous discussion in v2 on Patch
2/4 between Hugh and me.

Summary is: If you want mmap-reads to not fail, use mlock(). There are
many situations where a fault might fail (think: OOM) and sealing is
not meant to protect against that. Btw., holes are automatically
filled with fresh pages by shmem. So a read only fails in OOM
situations (or memcg limits, etc.).

Thanks
David

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-13 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-13 10:36 [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create() David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mm: allow drivers to prevent new writable mappings David Herrmann
2014-07-09  8:55   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:12     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] shm: add sealing API David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:06   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:17     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] shm: add memfd_create() syscall David Herrmann
2014-06-13 12:27   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-06-13 12:41     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 14:20       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-06-13 16:20         ` John Stultz
2014-06-16  4:12           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-07-08 18:39         ` David Herrmann
2014-06-15 10:50   ` Jann Horn
2014-07-16 10:07   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:29     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] selftests: add memfd_create() + sealing tests David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:07   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:31     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] selftests: add memfd/sealing page-pinning tests David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:08   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:32     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [RFC v3 6/7] shm: wait for pins to be released when sealing David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:09   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:36     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [RFC v3 7/7] shm: isolate pinned pages when sealing files David Herrmann
2014-06-13 15:06   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-13 15:27     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 17:23       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-09  8:57   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:40     ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create() Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-13 15:15   ` David Herrmann [this message]
2014-06-13 15:17     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-13 15:33       ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17  9:54         ` Florian Weimer
2014-06-17 10:01           ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 10:04             ` Florian Weimer
2014-06-17 10:10               ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 12:13                 ` Florian Weimer
2014-06-17 13:26                   ` David Herrmann
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrVpZ0vFM4usHK+tQhk234Y2jWzB1522kGcGvdQQFAqsZQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-06-17 16:36               ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 16:41                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-17 16:51                   ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 17:01                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-17 20:31                       ` Hugh Dickins
2014-06-17 21:25                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-08 16:54 ` David Herrmann
2014-07-09  8:53   ` Hugh Dickins

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