From: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Ryan Lortie <desrt@desrt.ca>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
Daniel Mack <zonque@gmail.com>, Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Tony Battersby <tonyb@cybernetics.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create()
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 17:15:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANq1E4SaWLD=hNEc-CDJbNnrGfXE_PkxZFBhpW4tbK7wor7xPA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVoE+JO2rLsBUHAOJdvescEEjxikj8iQ339Nxfopfc7pw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:36 AM, David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> This is v3 of the File-Sealing and memfd_create() patches. You can find v1 with
>> a longer introduction at gmane:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/102241
>> An LWN article about memfd+sealing is available, too:
>> https://lwn.net/Articles/593918/
>> v2 with some more discussions can be found here:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/115713
>>
>> This series introduces two new APIs:
>> memfd_create(): Think of this syscall as malloc() but it returns a
>> file-descriptor instead of a pointer. That file-descriptor is
>> backed by anon-memory and can be memory-mapped for access.
>> sealing: The sealing API can be used to prevent a specific set of operations
>> on a file-descriptor. You 'seal' the file and give thus the
>> guarantee, that it cannot be modified in the specific ways.
>>
>> A short high-level introduction is also available here:
>> http://dvdhrm.wordpress.com/2014/06/10/memfd_create2/
>
> Potentially silly question: is it guaranteed that mmapping and reading
> a SEAL_SHRINKed fd within size bounds will not SIGBUS? If so, should
> this be documented? (The particular issue here would be reading
> holes. It should work by using the zero page, but, if so, we should
> probably make it a real documented guarantee.)
No, this is not guaranteed. See the previous discussion in v2 on Patch
2/4 between Hugh and me.
Summary is: If you want mmap-reads to not fail, use mlock(). There are
many situations where a fault might fail (think: OOM) and sealing is
not meant to protect against that. Btw., holes are automatically
filled with fresh pages by shmem. So a read only fails in OOM
situations (or memcg limits, etc.).
Thanks
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-13 15:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-13 10:36 [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create() David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mm: allow drivers to prevent new writable mappings David Herrmann
2014-07-09 8:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:12 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] shm: add sealing API David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:17 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] shm: add memfd_create() syscall David Herrmann
2014-06-13 12:27 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-06-13 12:41 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 14:20 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-06-13 16:20 ` John Stultz
2014-06-16 4:12 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-07-08 18:39 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-15 10:50 ` Jann Horn
2014-07-16 10:07 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:29 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] selftests: add memfd_create() + sealing tests David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:07 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:31 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] selftests: add memfd/sealing page-pinning tests David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:08 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:32 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [RFC v3 6/7] shm: wait for pins to be released when sealing David Herrmann
2014-07-16 10:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:36 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 10:36 ` [RFC v3 7/7] shm: isolate pinned pages when sealing files David Herrmann
2014-06-13 15:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-13 15:27 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 17:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-09 8:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 16:40 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-13 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create() Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-13 15:15 ` David Herrmann [this message]
2014-06-13 15:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-13 15:33 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 9:54 ` Florian Weimer
2014-06-17 10:01 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 10:04 ` Florian Weimer
2014-06-17 10:10 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 12:13 ` Florian Weimer
2014-06-17 13:26 ` David Herrmann
[not found] ` <CALCETrVpZ0vFM4usHK+tQhk234Y2jWzB1522kGcGvdQQFAqsZQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-06-17 16:36 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 16:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-17 16:51 ` David Herrmann
2014-06-17 17:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-17 20:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-06-17 21:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-08 16:54 ` David Herrmann
2014-07-09 8:53 ` Hugh Dickins
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