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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
	Matthew Dharm <mdharm-kernel@one-eyed-alien.net>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, <linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [BK PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.34
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:35:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17qfBE-00008c-00@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209151220360.1393-100000@home.transmeta.com>

On Sunday 15 September 2002 21:26, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > 
> > I use UML all the time.  It's great, but it doesn't work for SMP debugging.
> 
> That should not be something fundamental, though. It should be perfectly 
> doable with threading. "SMOP".

Jeff and I occasionally kick this around and it always ends with "yeah,
not hard at all, when I have more time on my hands than I know what to
do with maybe I'll do that", or words to that effect.  It's understandable
why Jeff hasn't gotten around to doing it, given the workload he's had
just maintaining UML in both the 2.4 and 2.5 kernel series.  Plus Jeff
does not get paid of any of this.

Now that it's integrated, nice things like that can happen, and maybe
we won't have to impose on Jeff to do 100% of the work on UML in the
future.  (Well, actually I did about 0.00001% of the work on UML, to
wit, a patch to change the bogus virtual contents of ptes to "physical"
addresses, bringing UML in line with the other arches in that regard.
<- part of my new policy of making sure everybody knows about every
little contribution I make.)

> Yeah, and gdb (not to mention all the grapical nice stuff) sucks in a
> threaded environment. At least it used to. 

It still does.  That's yet another source of irritation.

-- 
Daniel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-09-15 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-09 22:17 [BK PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.34 Greg KH
2002-09-10  0:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-10  0:19   ` Greg KH
2002-09-10  0:30     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-10  0:40       ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Cox
2002-09-10  1:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-10  1:48           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-10 10:23     ` Andries Brouwer
2002-09-10  0:35   ` Nicholas Miell
2002-09-10  1:01     ` [patch] dump_stack(): arch-neutral stack trace Andrew Morton
2002-09-15  4:34       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-15  4:51         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-10  1:27     ` [BK PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.34 Linus Torvalds
2002-09-10  2:07   ` Matthew Dharm
2002-09-10  2:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-10  2:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-10 16:32       ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2002-09-10 16:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-10 17:16           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-10 18:16             ` David S. Miller
2002-09-10 18:40               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-10 18:48                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-10 19:31                 ` David S. Miller
2002-09-10 19:32                 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-09-10 19:38                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-10 19:43                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-10 21:52                   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-10 22:02                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-10 18:44           ` Alan Cox
2002-09-10 19:03             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-10 19:27               ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-10 20:18                 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-10 22:00                 ` David Woodhouse
2002-09-10 22:23                   ` Alan Cox
2002-09-10 22:26                   ` David Woodhouse
2002-09-10 23:01                     ` Alan Cox
2002-09-10 19:29               ` David S. Miller
2002-09-15  5:10               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-15  5:33                 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-09-15 16:41                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16  0:32                     ` Horst von Brand
2002-09-15  6:07                 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-09-15  7:00                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-15 14:53                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-15 18:23                     ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-09-15 18:34                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-16  0:55                         ` Larry McVoy
2002-09-15 20:05                   ` David Woodhouse
2002-09-15 21:35                   ` Rob Landley
2002-09-16  3:00                     ` Larry McVoy
2002-09-16  3:08                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 11:16                       ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-09-16 18:35                       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-16 18:45                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 19:36                           ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-16 19:40                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16  8:50                     ` Ian Molton
2002-09-16  9:37                       ` Rob Landley
2002-09-15 18:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-15 18:36                   ` Roman Zippel
2002-09-15 19:04                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-15 19:43                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-15 19:43                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-15 23:24                     ` Larry McVoy
2002-09-15 23:41                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-15 23:52                         ` Larry McVoy
2002-09-16  0:01                           ` Robert Love
2002-09-16  1:29                           ` Alan Cox
2002-09-16  2:13                             ` Larry McVoy
2002-09-16 11:05                               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-09-16 14:05                               ` Rogier Wolff
2002-09-16 16:24                               ` Marco Colombo
2002-09-16  0:44                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16  1:23                       ` Alan Cox
2002-09-15 19:07                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16  9:06                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-16 15:15                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16 15:59                         ` kernel debuggers was [Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [BK PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.34] Soewono Effendi
2002-09-16 14:14                     ` [linux-usb-devel] Re: [BK PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.34 David Woodhouse
2002-09-16 14:53                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-09-15 19:08                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-15 19:10                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-15 19:26                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-15 19:32                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-15 19:48                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16  4:59                             ` Jeff Dike
2002-09-16  4:05                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-16  4:55                           ` Jeff Dike
2002-09-15 19:35                         ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-09-16  4:51                       ` Jeff Dike
2002-09-16 15:29                     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-09-18  0:33                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-18  0:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-18  0:50                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-18  1:16                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-15 13:54               ` Rogier Wolff
2002-09-15  5:01           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 16:46       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-10 16:56         ` Vojtech Pavlik

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