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From: Jeremy Hansen <jeremy@xxedgexx.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: scsi vs ide performance on fsync's
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:13:04 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0103052108590.32449-100000@srv2.ecropolis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <97p1ek$10t$1@penguin.transmeta.com>

On 2 Mar 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> In article <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0103021241550.14586-200000@srv2.ecropolis.com>,
> Jeremy Hansen  <jeremy@xxedgexx.com> wrote:
> >
> >The SCSI adapter on the raid array is an Adaptec 39160, the raid
> >controller is a CMD-7040.  Kernel 2.4.0 using XFS for the filesystem on
> >the raid array, kernel 2.2.18 on ext2 on the IDE drive.  The filesystem is
> >not the problem, as I get almost the exact same results running this on
> >ext2 on the raid array.
>
> Did you try a 2.4.x kernel on both?

Finally got around to working on this.

Right now I'm running 2.4.2-ac11 on both machines and getting the same
results:

SCSI:

[root@orville /root]# time /root/xlog file.out fsync

real    0m21.266s
user    0m0.000s
sys     0m0.310s

IDE:

[root@kahlbi /root]# time /root/xlog file.out fsync

real    0m8.928s
user    0m0.000s
sys     0m6.700s

This behavior has been noticed by others, so I'm hoping I'm not just crazy
or that my test is somehow flawed.

We're using MySQL with Berkeley DB for transaction log support.  It was
really confusing when a simple ide workstation was out performing our
Ultra160 raid array.

Thanks
-jeremy

> 2.4.0 has a bad elevator, which may show problems, so please check 2.4.2
> if the numbers change. Also, "fsync()" is very different indeed on 2.2.x
> and 2.4.x, and I would not be 100% surprised if your IDE drive does
> asynchronous write caching and your RAID does not... That would not show
> up in bonnie.
>
> Also note how your bonnie file remove numbers for IDE seem to be much
> better than for your RAID array, so it is not impossible that your RAID
> unit just has a _huge_ setup overhead but good throughput, and that the
> IDE numbers are better simply because your IDE setup is much lower
> latency. Never mistake throughput for _speed_.
>
> 		Linus
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-03-06  2:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-02 17:42 scsi vs ide performance on fsync's Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-02 18:39 ` Steve Lord
2001-03-02 19:17   ` Chris Mason
2001-03-02 19:25     ` Steve Lord
2001-03-02 19:27       ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-02 19:38       ` Chris Mason
2001-03-02 19:41         ` Steve Lord
2001-03-05 13:23         ` Andi Kleen
2001-03-02 19:25     ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-03  1:55     ` Dan Hollis
2001-03-02 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06  2:13   ` Jeremy Hansen [this message]
2001-03-06  2:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06  3:30     ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06  4:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06  7:03       ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-06  8:24       ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 12:22         ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-06 14:08         ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-07 16:50           ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-06 19:41         ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-07  5:25         ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-07  6:58           ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-09 11:39       ` Jonathan Morton
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0103021033190.6176-200000@srv2.ecropolis.com>
     [not found] ` <054201c0a33d$55ee5870$e1de11cc@csihq.com>
2001-03-04 20:10   ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-03-04 21:28     ` Ishikawa
2001-03-06  0:11     ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-03-06  5:27 Douglas Gilbert
2001-03-06  5:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06  7:12   ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-06 12:09     ` Alan Cox
2001-03-06 18:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-07 13:48         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 14:13           ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-12 18:50           ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-06 13:50     ` Mike Black
2001-03-06 16:02       ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-07 18:27         ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-07 18:36           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-08 11:06             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-06 16:57       ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06  6:43 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 13:03   ` dean gaudet
2001-03-06 13:15     ` dean gaudet
2001-03-06 13:45     ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 17:14 David Balazic
2001-03-06 17:46 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-03-06 18:23 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 23:27   ` Mark Hahn
2001-03-06 19:42 David Balazic
2001-03-06 20:37 ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 13:51   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 14:12     ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 15:05       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 18:51         ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 19:10           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 20:15             ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 20:56               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 20:59                 ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-08 15:45                 ` Chris Mason
2001-03-07 12:47 David Balazic
     [not found] <1epyyz1.etswlv1kmicnqM%smurf@noris.de>
2001-03-09  6:59 ` Matthias Urlichs
2001-03-09 11:51   ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-09 14:26     ` Matthias Urlichs

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