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From: Jonathan Morton <chromi@cyberspace.org>
To: dean gaudet <dean-list-linux-kernel@arctic.org>
Cc: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Douglas Gilbert <dougg@torque.net>,
	Jeremy Hansen <jeremy@xxedgexx.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: scsi vs ide performance on fsync's
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:45:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <l0313030cb6ca98eb60a7@[192.168.239.101]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0103060513160.15874-100000@twinlark.arctic.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0103060449230.15874-100000@twinlark.arctic.org>

>> i assume you meant to time the xlog.c program?  (or did i miss another
>> program on the thread?)

Yes.

>> i've an IBM-DJSA-210 (travelstar 10GB, 5411rpm) which appears to do
>> *something* with the write cache flag -- it gets 0.10s elapsed real time
>> in default config; and gets 2.91s if i do "hdparm -W 0".
>>
>> ditto for an IBM-DTLA-307015 (deskstar 15GB 7200rpm) -- varies from .15s
>> with write-cache to 1.8s without.
>>
>> and an IBM-DTLA-307075 (deskstar 75GB 7200rpm) varies from .03s to 1.67s.
>>
>> of course 1.8s is nowhere near enough time for 200 writes to complete.
>
>hi, not enough sleep, can't do math.  1.67s is exactly the ballpark you'd
>expect for 200 writes to a correctly functioning 7200rpm disk.  and the
>travelstar appears to be doing the right thing as well.

I was just about to point that out.  :)  I ran the program with 2000
packets in order to magnify the difference.

So, it appears that the IBM IDE drives are doing the "right thing" when
write-caching is switched off, but the Seagate drive (at least the one I'm
using) appears not to turn the write-caching off at all.  I want to try
this out with some other drives, including a Seagate SCSI drive and a
different Seagate IDE drive (attached to a non-UDMA controller), and
perhaps a couple of older drives which I just happen to have lying around
(particularly a Maxtor and an old TravelStar with very little cache).
That'll have to wait until later, though - university work beckons.  :(

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-03-06 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-06  5:27 scsi vs ide performance on fsync's Douglas Gilbert
2001-03-06  5:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06  7:12   ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-06 12:09     ` Alan Cox
2001-03-06 18:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-07 13:48         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 14:13           ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-12 18:50           ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-06 13:50     ` Mike Black
2001-03-06 16:02       ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-07 18:27         ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-07 18:36           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-08 11:06             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-06 16:57       ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06  6:43 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 13:03   ` dean gaudet
2001-03-06 13:15     ` dean gaudet
2001-03-06 13:45     ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
     [not found] <1epyyz1.etswlv1kmicnqM%smurf@noris.de>
2001-03-09  6:59 ` Matthias Urlichs
2001-03-09 11:51   ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-09 14:26     ` Matthias Urlichs
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-07 12:47 David Balazic
2001-03-06 19:42 David Balazic
2001-03-06 20:37 ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 13:51   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 14:12     ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 15:05       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 18:51         ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 19:10           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 20:15             ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-07 20:56               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-03-07 20:59                 ` Jens Axboe
2001-03-08 15:45                 ` Chris Mason
2001-03-06 17:14 David Balazic
2001-03-06 17:46 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-03-06 18:23 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 23:27   ` Mark Hahn
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0103021033190.6176-200000@srv2.ecropolis.com>
     [not found] ` <054201c0a33d$55ee5870$e1de11cc@csihq.com>
2001-03-04 20:10   ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-03-04 21:28     ` Ishikawa
2001-03-06  0:11     ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-03-02 17:42 Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-02 18:39 ` Steve Lord
2001-03-02 19:17   ` Chris Mason
2001-03-02 19:25     ` Steve Lord
2001-03-02 19:27       ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-02 19:38       ` Chris Mason
2001-03-02 19:41         ` Steve Lord
2001-03-05 13:23         ` Andi Kleen
2001-03-02 19:25     ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-03  1:55     ` Dan Hollis
2001-03-02 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06  2:13   ` Jeremy Hansen
2001-03-06  2:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06  3:30     ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06  4:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-03-06  7:03       ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-06  8:24       ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-06 12:22         ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-06 14:08         ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-07 16:50           ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-06 19:41         ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-07  5:25         ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-07  6:58           ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-09 11:39       ` Jonathan Morton

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