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From: Peter Feuerer <peter@piie.net>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Durgadoss R <durgadoss.r@intel.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>, Alexander Lam <azl@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] acerhdf: Fix fan activation with new thermal governor
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 11:36:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cone.1361788564.131747.30649.1000@mups> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20130225102049.GA12067@pd.tnic

Hi,

sorry for not answering to earlier mails, but sitting in front of the 
computer and writing English mails is still very exhausting for me.


Borislav Petkov writes:

> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:06:40AM +0800, Zhang Rui wrote:
>> when the temperature goes up to 50C, will the fan be turned on or not?
> 
> Right, let's first clarify this:
> 
> so we want the fan to go on when it reaches and/or exceeds the 'fanon'
> temperature and to go off after it goes under the 'fanoff' temperature.
> It is supposed to remain on in the [fanoff,fanon] interval.
> 
> Now, my observation from yesterday was that, if we don't do the
> flattening of the abovementioned interval in acerhdf_set_cur_state() but
> we simply turn on the fan if we receive state=1 and turn it off when
> state=0, the fan gets turned on only for short bursts when the governor
> decides it is time to throttle, i.e. the temperature in the zone is
> rising and turns it off when the temperature starts to fall again. And
> it would turn on the fan at lower temperatures than fanon.
> 
> But this is annoying. The main reason why this acerhdf thing was added
> in the first place was to do a better fan control on those machines
> because the fans are noisy. Basically, enable the fan only when really
> needed - and leave it off when not because it is really annoying.
> 
> When enabled, however, leave it on longer until a safe, 'fanoff'
> temperature is reached.
> 
> Am I making more sense now? Peter?

This sounds good, couldn't have stated it more clear. Just one thing to add 
here: This is standard idea of a "schmitt trigger", we implemented 
in acerhdf :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmitt_trigger

-- 
kind regards,
--peter;

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-25 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-14 15:32 thermal governor: does it actually work?? Andreas Mohr
2013-02-15  9:47 ` Zhang, Rui
2013-02-15 15:49   ` Andreas Mohr
2013-02-16 21:08     ` Alexander Lam
2013-02-16 21:47       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-17  2:43         ` Peter Feuerer
2013-02-17 14:09           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-17 15:41             ` Peter Feuerer
2013-02-18 13:50               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-18 16:47                 ` Peter Feuerer
2013-02-19 14:51                   ` Zhang Rui
2013-02-19 15:05                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-19 15:27                       ` Zhang Rui
     [not found]     ` <CACWwPisqpmLjiqEh+J2DjnEtNObmmA0w=qMQYTgBsb6Ntad7Pw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <744357E9AAD1214791ACBA4B0B90926329F98E@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]         ` <CACWwPit=xxeeCW1+jfxE8eww+P545B5xebh3YT2yE78zcsqSMg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-02-18 20:33           ` Alexander Lam
2013-02-19 14:53           ` Zhang Rui
2013-02-19 15:35 ` Zhang Rui
2013-02-22  5:33   ` Peter Feuerer
2013-02-22 11:15     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-23 19:20       ` [PATCH] acerhdf: Fix fan activation with new thermal governor Borislav Petkov
2013-02-24 11:28         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-24 11:42           ` Peter Feuerer
2013-02-24 12:09             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-24 12:59               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-25  3:06               ` Zhang Rui
2013-02-25 10:20                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-25 10:36                   ` Peter Feuerer [this message]
2013-02-24 14:34             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-25  3:21               ` Zhang Rui
2013-02-25 10:25                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-25 12:16                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-03-04 13:34                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-03-04 19:25                       ` Andreas Mohr
2013-03-05 21:59                       ` Andreas Mohr
2013-03-06  3:47                         ` Zhang Rui
2013-03-06  7:00                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-03-06  7:30                             ` Zhang Rui
2013-03-06  7:36                               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-03-07 20:17                       ` Peter Feuerer
2013-03-07 20:27                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-25  3:01             ` Zhang Rui
2013-02-25  2:58           ` Zhang Rui

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