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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 08/15] x86/sgx: Implement EPC reclamation flows for cgroup
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:00:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4aacbea13f0ff03ad94c31a4735746aedd009ba.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.2jhbnui0wjvjmi@hhuan26-mobl.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, 2024-02-21 at 00:44 -0600, Haitao Huang wrote:
> [...]
> > 
> > Here the @nr_to_scan is reduced by the number of pages that are  
> > isolated, but
> > not actually reclaimed (which is reflected by @cnt).
> > 
> > IIUC, looks you want to make this function do "each cycle" as what you  
> > mentioned
> > in the v8 [1]:
> > 
> > 	I tested with that approach and found we can only target number of
> > pages
> > 	attempted to reclaim not pages actually reclaimed due to the
> > uncertainty
> > 	of how long it takes to reclaim pages. Besides targeting number of
> > 	scanned pages for each cycle is also what the ksgxd does.
> > 
> > 	If we target actual number of pages, sometimes it just takes too long.
> > I
> > 	saw more timeouts with the default time limit when running parallel
> > 	selftests.
> > 
> > I am not sure what does "sometimes it just takes too long" mean, but  
> > what I am
> > thinking is you are trying to do some perfect but yet complicated code  
> > here.
> 
> I think what I observed was that the try_charge() would block too long  
> before getting chance of schedule() to yield, causing more timeouts than  
> necessary.
> I'll do some re-test to be sure.

Looks this is a valid information that can be used to justify whatever you are
implementing in the EPC cgroup reclaiming function(s).

> 
> > 
> > For instance, I don't think selftest reflect the real workload, and I  
> > believe
> > adjusting the limit of a given EPC cgroup shouldn't be a frequent  
> > operation,
> > thus it is acceptable to use some easy-maintain code but less perfect  
> > code.
> > 
> > Here I still think having @nr_to_scan as a pointer is over-complicated.   
> > For
> > example, we can still let sgx_reclaim_pages() to always scan  
> > SGX_NR_TO_SCAN
> > pages, but give up when there's enough pages reclaimed or when the EPC  
> > cgroup
> > and its descendants have been looped:
> > 
> > unsigned int sgx_epc_cgroup_reclaim_pages(struct misc_cg *root)
> > {
> > 	unsigned int cnt = 0;
> > 	...
> > 
> > 	css_for_each_descendant_pre(pos, css_root) {
> > 		...
> > 		epc_cg = sgx_epc_cgroup_from_misc_cg(css_misc(pos));
> > 		cnt += sgx_reclaim_pages(&epc_cg->lru);
> > 
> > 		if (cnt >= SGX_NR_TO_SCAN)
> > 			break;
> > 	}
> > 
> > 	...
> > 	return cnt;
> > }
> > 
> > Yeah it may reclaim more than SGX_NR_TO_SCAN when the loop actually  
> > reaches any
> > descendants, but that should be rare and we don't care that much, do we?
> > 
> I assume you meant @cnt here to be number of pages actually reclaimed.  

Yes.

> This could cause  sgx_epc_cgroup_reclaim_pages() block too long as @cnt  
> may always be zero (all pages are too young) and you have to loop all  
> descendants.

I am not sure whether this is a valid point.

For example, your change in patch 10 "x86/sgx: Add EPC reclamation in cgroup
try_charge()" already loops all descendants in below code:

+		if (sgx_epc_cgroup_lru_empty(epc_cg->cg))
+			return -ENOMEM;

Anyway, I can see all these can be justification to your design/implementation.
My point is please put these justification in changelog/comments so that we can
actually understand.


Makes sense?

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-21 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-05 21:06 [PATCH v9 00/15] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 01/15] cgroup/misc: Add per resource callbacks for CSS events Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 02/15] cgroup/misc: Export APIs for SGX driver Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 03/15] cgroup/misc: Add SGX EPC resource type Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 04/15] x86/sgx: Implement basic EPC misc cgroup functionality Haitao Huang
2024-02-19 12:47   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-26 18:25   ` Michal Koutný
2024-02-27 21:35     ` Haitao Huang
2024-03-09 21:10       ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 05/15] x86/sgx: Add sgx_epc_lru_list to encapsulate LRU list Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 06/15] x86/sgx: Abstract tracking reclaimable pages in LRU Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 07/15] x86/sgx: Expose sgx_reclaim_pages() for cgroup Haitao Huang
2024-02-20  9:26   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 08/15] x86/sgx: Implement EPC reclamation flows " Haitao Huang
2024-02-12 19:35   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20  9:52   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-20 13:18     ` Michal Koutný
2024-02-20 20:09       ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-21  6:23     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-21 10:48       ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 20:12         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-22 22:24           ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-28  0:24             ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-21  6:44     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-21 11:00       ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2024-02-22 17:20         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-22 22:31           ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 18:09     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 09/15] x86/sgx: Charge mem_cgroup for per-cgroup reclamation Haitao Huang
2024-02-12 19:46   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-13  3:21     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-15 23:43   ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-16  6:07     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-16 15:15   ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-16 21:38     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-16 21:55       ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-16 23:33         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 10/15] x86/sgx: Add EPC reclamation in cgroup try_charge() Haitao Huang
2024-02-12 19:55   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-12 23:15     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-14  1:52       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 15:12         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-19 20:20           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 15:39         ` [RFC PATCH] x86/sgx: Remove 'reclaim' boolean parameters Haitao Huang
2024-02-19 15:56           ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-19 20:42             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 22:25               ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-19 22:43                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 20:23           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 11:06   ` [PATCH v9 10/15] x86/sgx: Add EPC reclamation in cgroup try_charge() Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 17:09     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-22 21:26       ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 22:57         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-23 10:18           ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-23 17:00             ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-26  1:38               ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-26  4:03                 ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-26 11:36                   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-26 14:04                     ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-26 21:48                       ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-26 21:56                         ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-26 22:34                           ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-26 22:38                             ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-26 22:46                               ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-27 20:41                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-27  9:26                         ` Michal Koutný
2024-02-26 21:18                     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-26 22:24                       ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-26 22:31                         ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-26 22:38                           ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 11/15] x86/sgx: Abstract check for global reclaimable pages Haitao Huang
2024-02-12 19:56   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 11:34   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 12/15] x86/sgx: Expose sgx_epc_cgroup_reclaim_pages() for global reclaimer Haitao Huang
2024-02-12 19:58   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 11:10   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 16:35     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 13/15] x86/sgx: Turn on per-cgroup EPC reclamation Haitao Huang
2024-02-21 11:23   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 16:36     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-22 22:44       ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-23 18:46         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 14/15] Docs/x86/sgx: Add description for cgroup support Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 15/15] selftests/sgx: Add scripts for EPC cgroup testing Haitao Huang
2024-03-27 12:55   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-27 16:56     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-28  0:57       ` Haitao Huang
2024-03-28  3:05         ` Haitao Huang
2024-03-30 11:23         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-30 11:26           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-04-02 11:23             ` Michal Koutný
2024-04-02 11:58               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-04-02 16:20                 ` Haitao Huang
2024-04-02 17:40                   ` Michal Koutný
2024-04-02 18:20                     ` Haitao Huang
2024-04-03 16:46                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-04-03 15:33                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-04-02 15:42           ` Dave Hansen
2024-04-03 15:16             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-28  3:54     ` Haitao Huang
2024-03-30 11:15       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-30 15:32         ` Haitao Huang
2024-03-31 16:19           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-31 17:35             ` Haitao Huang
2024-04-01 14:10               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-08  8:43 ` [PATCH v9 00/15] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Mikko Ylinen

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