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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 08/15] x86/sgx: Implement EPC reclamation flows for cgroup
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 11:31:18 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f242cfb2-e8ab-49f3-9b8e-1236dd361b64@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.2jjzsnz0wjvjmi@hhuan26-mobl.amr.corp.intel.com>



On 23/02/2024 6:20 am, Haitao Huang wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 05:00:27 -0600, Huang, Kai <kai.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 2024-02-21 at 00:44 -0600, Haitao Huang wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> >
>>> > Here the @nr_to_scan is reduced by the number of pages that are
>>> > isolated, but
>>> > not actually reclaimed (which is reflected by @cnt).
>>> >
>>> > IIUC, looks you want to make this function do "each cycle" as what you
>>> > mentioned
>>> > in the v8 [1]:
>>> >
>>> >     I tested with that approach and found we can only target number of
>>> > pages
>>> >     attempted to reclaim not pages actually reclaimed due to the
>>> > uncertainty
>>> >     of how long it takes to reclaim pages. Besides targeting number of
>>> >     scanned pages for each cycle is also what the ksgxd does.
>>> >
>>> >     If we target actual number of pages, sometimes it just takes 
>>> too long.
>>> > I
>>> >     saw more timeouts with the default time limit when running 
>>> parallel
>>> >     selftests.
>>> >
>>> > I am not sure what does "sometimes it just takes too long" mean, but
>>> > what I am
>>> > thinking is you are trying to do some perfect but yet complicated code
>>> > here.
>>>
>>> I think what I observed was that the try_charge() would block too long
>>> before getting chance of schedule() to yield, causing more timeouts than
>>> necessary.
>>> I'll do some re-test to be sure.
>>
>> Looks this is a valid information that can be used to justify whatever 
>> you are
>> implementing in the EPC cgroup reclaiming function(s).
>>
> I'll add some comments. Was assuming this is just following the old 
> design as ksgxd.
> There were some comments at the beginning of 
> sgx_epc_cgrooup_reclaim_page().
>          /*
>           * Attempting to reclaim only a few pages will often fail and is
>           * inefficient, while reclaiming a huge number of pages can 
> result in
>           * soft lockups due to holding various locks for an extended 
> duration.
>           */
>          unsigned int nr_to_scan = SGX_NR_TO_SCAN;
> 
> I think it can be improved to emphasize we only "attempt" to finish 
> scanning fixed number of pages for reclamation, not enforce number of 
> pages successfully reclaimed.

Not sure need to be this comment, but at somewhere just state you are 
trying to follow the ksgxd() (the current sgx_reclaim_pages()), but 
trying to do it "_across_ given cgroup and all the descendants".

That's the reason you made @nr_to_scan as a pointer.

And also some text to explain why to follow ksgxd() -- not wanting to 
block longer due to loop over descendants etc -- so we can focus on 
discussing whether such justification is reasonable.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-22 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-05 21:06 [PATCH v9 00/15] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 01/15] cgroup/misc: Add per resource callbacks for CSS events Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 02/15] cgroup/misc: Export APIs for SGX driver Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 03/15] cgroup/misc: Add SGX EPC resource type Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 04/15] x86/sgx: Implement basic EPC misc cgroup functionality Haitao Huang
2024-02-19 12:47   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-26 18:25   ` Michal Koutný
2024-02-27 21:35     ` Haitao Huang
2024-03-09 21:10       ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 05/15] x86/sgx: Add sgx_epc_lru_list to encapsulate LRU list Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 06/15] x86/sgx: Abstract tracking reclaimable pages in LRU Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 07/15] x86/sgx: Expose sgx_reclaim_pages() for cgroup Haitao Huang
2024-02-20  9:26   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 08/15] x86/sgx: Implement EPC reclamation flows " Haitao Huang
2024-02-12 19:35   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20  9:52   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-20 13:18     ` Michal Koutný
2024-02-20 20:09       ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-21  6:23     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-21 10:48       ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 20:12         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-22 22:24           ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-28  0:24             ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-21  6:44     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-21 11:00       ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 17:20         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-22 22:31           ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2024-02-22 18:09     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 09/15] x86/sgx: Charge mem_cgroup for per-cgroup reclamation Haitao Huang
2024-02-12 19:46   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-13  3:21     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-15 23:43   ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-16  6:07     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-16 15:15   ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-16 21:38     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-16 21:55       ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-16 23:33         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 10/15] x86/sgx: Add EPC reclamation in cgroup try_charge() Haitao Huang
2024-02-12 19:55   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-12 23:15     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-14  1:52       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 15:12         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-19 20:20           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 15:39         ` [RFC PATCH] x86/sgx: Remove 'reclaim' boolean parameters Haitao Huang
2024-02-19 15:56           ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-19 20:42             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 22:25               ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-19 22:43                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 20:23           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 11:06   ` [PATCH v9 10/15] x86/sgx: Add EPC reclamation in cgroup try_charge() Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 17:09     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-22 21:26       ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 22:57         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-23 10:18           ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-23 17:00             ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-26  1:38               ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-26  4:03                 ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-26 11:36                   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-26 14:04                     ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-26 21:48                       ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-26 21:56                         ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-26 22:34                           ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-26 22:38                             ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-26 22:46                               ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-27 20:41                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-27  9:26                         ` Michal Koutný
2024-02-26 21:18                     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-26 22:24                       ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-26 22:31                         ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-26 22:38                           ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 11/15] x86/sgx: Abstract check for global reclaimable pages Haitao Huang
2024-02-12 19:56   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 11:34   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 12/15] x86/sgx: Expose sgx_epc_cgroup_reclaim_pages() for global reclaimer Haitao Huang
2024-02-12 19:58   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 11:10   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 16:35     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 13/15] x86/sgx: Turn on per-cgroup EPC reclamation Haitao Huang
2024-02-21 11:23   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-22 16:36     ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-22 22:44       ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-23 18:46         ` Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 14/15] Docs/x86/sgx: Add description for cgroup support Haitao Huang
2024-02-05 21:06 ` [PATCH v9 15/15] selftests/sgx: Add scripts for EPC cgroup testing Haitao Huang
2024-03-27 12:55   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-27 16:56     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-28  0:57       ` Haitao Huang
2024-03-28  3:05         ` Haitao Huang
2024-03-30 11:23         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-30 11:26           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-04-02 11:23             ` Michal Koutný
2024-04-02 11:58               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-04-02 16:20                 ` Haitao Huang
2024-04-02 17:40                   ` Michal Koutný
2024-04-02 18:20                     ` Haitao Huang
2024-04-03 16:46                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-04-03 15:33                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-04-02 15:42           ` Dave Hansen
2024-04-03 15:16             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-28  3:54     ` Haitao Huang
2024-03-30 11:15       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-30 15:32         ` Haitao Huang
2024-03-31 16:19           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-03-31 17:35             ` Haitao Huang
2024-04-01 14:10               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-08  8:43 ` [PATCH v9 00/15] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Mikko Ylinen

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