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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>, Jos Hulzink <josh@stack.nl>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use correct x86 reboot vector
Date: 11 May 2003 11:56:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1fznl74f9.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0305111033590.7563-100000@blue1.dev.mcafeelabs.com>

Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org> writes:

> On Sun, 11 May 2003, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> 
> > Jos Hulzink wrote:
> > > On Sunday 11 May 2003 05:50, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > Hmm.. Doesnt' a _real_ hardware reset actually use a magic segment that
> > > > isn't even really true real mode? I have this memory that the reset value
> > > > for a i386 has CS=0xf000, but the shadow base register actually contains
> > > > 0xffff0000. In other words, the CPU actually starts up in "unreal" mode,
> > > > and will fetch the first instruction from physical address 0xfffffff0.
> > > >
> > > > At least that was true on an original 386. It's something that could
> > > > easily have changed since.
> >
> > I got my info from an article on the net which says that a 386 does
> > behave as you say, but it is possible for the system designer to
> > arrange that it boots into the 286-compatible vector at physical
> > address 0x000ffff0.  It states that the feature is specifically so
> > that system designers don't have to create a "memory hole" (that's as
> > much detail as it gives).
> 
> Guys, mem[0xfffffff0,...] == mem[0x000ffff0,...] since the hw remaps the
> bios. Being picky about Intel specs, it should be f000:fff0 though.

The remapping is quite common but it usually happens that after bootup:
0xf0000-0xfffff is shadowed RAM.  While 0xffff0000-0xffffffff still points
to the rom chip.

Now if someone could tell me how to do a jump to 0xffff0000:0xfff0 in real
mode I would find that very interesting.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-11 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-10  2:56 [PATCH] Use correct x86 reboot vector Andi Kleen
2003-05-10  3:35 ` CaT
2003-05-10  3:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-10 14:49   ` Alan Cox
2003-05-10 16:17     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-10 18:47       ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-11 18:01     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-11 17:24       ` Alan Cox
2003-05-11 19:04         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-12  5:48         ` [PATCH] always shutdown on the bootstrap processor Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-10 16:15 ` [PATCH] Use correct x86 reboot vector Jamie Lokier
2003-05-10 17:09   ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-05-10 19:41   ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-10 18:10     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-10 20:55       ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-11  3:50       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-11  9:37         ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-11 14:01           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-11 17:38             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-11 17:56               ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2003-05-11 18:23                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-11 19:12                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-12 15:36                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-05-13  6:35                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-11 18:38                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-11 19:00                   ` Matt Mackall
2003-05-11 19:16                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-12  1:07                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-11 19:10                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-11 18:43                 ` Christer Weinigel
2003-05-11 20:22                   ` wingel
2003-05-11 20:26                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-11 17:54         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-13 12:49 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-13 18:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-13 19:04   ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-13 19:27     ` H. Peter Anvin

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