From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>, Jos Hulzink <josh@stack.nl>,
Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use correct x86 reboot vector
Date: 11 May 2003 13:10:11 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1wugx5mgc.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305111124240.12955-100000@home.transmeta.com>
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> writes:
> On 11 May 2003, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >
> > Now if someone could tell me how to do a jump to 0xffff0000:0xfff0 in real
> > mode I would find that very interesting.
>
> You should be able to do it the same way as you enter unreal mode, ie:
>
> - in protected mode cpl0, crate a segment that has index 0xf000 (ie you
> need a large GDT for this to work), and has the right attributes (ie
> base 0xffff0000, 16-bit, etc).
>
> Make sure you reload the other segments with something sanish and be
> 16-bit clean.
>
> - clear the PE bit, but do _not_ do the long jump to reload the segment
> that intel says you should do - just do a short jump to 0xfff0.
>
> One problem is that the code segment you create this way will have the
> right base and size, but it will be non-writeable (no way to create a
> writable code segment in protected mode), so it will be different in other
> ways.
I suspect the fact it is unwritable won't be a real problem. ROM chips
are essentially unwritable. But there will be the behavioral difference
between discarding writes and causing an exception.
> And because you'll have to do some of the the setup with that new and
> inconvenient CS, you'll either have to make the limit be big (and wrap
> around EIP in order to first execute code that is in low memory), or
> you'll have to play even more tricks and clear both PE and PG at the same
> time and just "fall through" to the code at 0xfffffff0.
>
> Sounds like it might work, at least on a few CPU's.
I will have to try it one of these times. I keep wondering if I can call
a BIOS without trigger a reset line.
At the same time I think this is very much not what we want in the reboot
path. As I suspect the existing BIOS if it does anything different will
freak out on us. Jumping to a known location where there is ram sounds much
safer.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-11 19:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-10 2:56 [PATCH] Use correct x86 reboot vector Andi Kleen
2003-05-10 3:35 ` CaT
2003-05-10 3:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-10 14:49 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-10 16:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-10 18:47 ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-11 18:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-11 17:24 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-11 19:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-12 5:48 ` [PATCH] always shutdown on the bootstrap processor Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-10 16:15 ` [PATCH] Use correct x86 reboot vector Jamie Lokier
2003-05-10 17:09 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-05-10 19:41 ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-10 18:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-10 20:55 ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-11 3:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-11 9:37 ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-11 14:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-11 17:38 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-11 17:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-11 18:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-11 19:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-12 15:36 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-05-13 6:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-11 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-11 19:00 ` Matt Mackall
2003-05-11 19:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-12 1:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-11 19:10 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2003-05-11 18:43 ` Christer Weinigel
2003-05-11 20:22 ` wingel
2003-05-11 20:26 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-11 17:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-13 12:49 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-13 18:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-13 19:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-13 19:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
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