linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>, Jos Hulzink <josh@stack.nl>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use correct x86 reboot vector
Date: 11 May 2003 13:10:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1wugx5mgc.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305111124240.12955-100000@home.transmeta.com>

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> writes:

> On 11 May 2003, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > 
> > Now if someone could tell me how to do a jump to 0xffff0000:0xfff0 in real
> > mode I would find that very interesting.
> 
> You should be able to do it the same way as you enter unreal mode, ie:
> 
>  - in protected mode cpl0, crate a segment that has index 0xf000 (ie you 
>    need a large GDT for this to work), and has the right attributes (ie 
>    base 0xffff0000, 16-bit, etc).
> 
>    Make sure you reload the other segments with something sanish and be 
>    16-bit clean.
> 
>  - clear the PE bit, but do _not_ do the long jump to reload the segment 
>    that intel says you should do - just do a short jump to 0xfff0.
> 
> One problem is that the code segment you create this way will have the 
> right base and size, but it will be non-writeable (no way to create a 
> writable code segment in protected mode), so it will be different in other 
> ways.

I suspect the fact it is unwritable won't be a real problem.  ROM chips
are essentially unwritable.  But there will be the behavioral difference 
between discarding writes and causing an exception.
 
> And because you'll have to do some of the the setup with that new and
> inconvenient CS, you'll either have to make the limit be big (and wrap 
> around EIP in order to first execute code that is in low memory), or 
> you'll have to play even more tricks and clear both PE and PG at the same 
> time and just "fall through" to the code at 0xfffffff0. 
> 
> Sounds like it might work, at least on a few CPU's. 

I will have to try it one of these times.  I keep wondering if I can call
a BIOS without trigger a reset line.

At the same time I think this is very much not what we want in the reboot
path.  As I suspect the existing BIOS if it does anything different will
freak out on us.  Jumping to a known location where there is ram sounds much
safer.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-11 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-10  2:56 [PATCH] Use correct x86 reboot vector Andi Kleen
2003-05-10  3:35 ` CaT
2003-05-10  3:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-10 14:49   ` Alan Cox
2003-05-10 16:17     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-10 18:47       ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-11 18:01     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-11 17:24       ` Alan Cox
2003-05-11 19:04         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-12  5:48         ` [PATCH] always shutdown on the bootstrap processor Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-10 16:15 ` [PATCH] Use correct x86 reboot vector Jamie Lokier
2003-05-10 17:09   ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-05-10 19:41   ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-10 18:10     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-10 20:55       ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-11  3:50       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-11  9:37         ` Jos Hulzink
2003-05-11 14:01           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-11 17:38             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-11 17:56               ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-11 18:23                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-11 19:12                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-12 15:36                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-05-13  6:35                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-11 18:38                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-11 19:00                   ` Matt Mackall
2003-05-11 19:16                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-12  1:07                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-11 19:10                   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2003-05-11 18:43                 ` Christer Weinigel
2003-05-11 20:22                   ` wingel
2003-05-11 20:26                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-11 17:54         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-13 12:49 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-13 18:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-13 19:04   ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-13 19:27     ` H. Peter Anvin

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=m1wugx5mgc.fsf@frodo.biederman.org \
    --to=ebiederm@xmission.com \
    --cc=ak@muc.de \
    --cc=davidel@xmailserver.org \
    --cc=jamie@shareable.org \
    --cc=josh@stack.nl \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=torvalds@transmeta.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).