From: Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>,
David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
dcbw@redhat.com, Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
parav@mellanox.com, Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>,
mlxsw <mlxsw@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [patch net-next rfc 3/7] net: rtnetlink: add commands to add and delete alternative ifnames
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 08:14:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJieiUjpE+o-=x2hQcsKQJNxB8O7VLHYw2tSnqzTFRuy_vtOxw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190827093525.GB2250@nanopsycho>
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:35 AM Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> wrote:
>
> Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:22:42AM CEST, davem@davemloft.net wrote:
> >From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
> >Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 09:08:08 +0200
> >
> >> Okay, so if I understand correctly, on top of separate commands for
> >> add/del of alternative names, you suggest also get/dump to be separate
> >> command and don't fill this up in existing newling/getlink command.
> >
> >I'm not sure what to do yet.
> >
> >David has a point, because the only way these ifnames are useful is
> >as ways to specify and choose net devices. So based upon that I'm
> >slightly learning towards not using separate commands.
>
> Well yeah, one can use it to handle existing commands instead of
> IFLA_NAME.
>
> But why does it rule out separate commands? I think it is cleaner than
> to put everything in poor setlink messages :/ The fact that we would
> need to add "OP" to the setlink message just feels of. Other similar
> needs may show up in the future and we may endup in ridiculous messages
> like:
>
> SETLINK
> IFLA_NAME eth0
> IFLA_ATLNAME_LIST (nest)
> IFLA_ALTNAME_OP add
> IFLA_ALTNAME somereallylongname
> IFLA_ALTNAME_OP del
> IFLA_ALTNAME somereallyreallylongname
> IFLA_ALTNAME_OP add
> IFLA_ALTNAME someotherreallylongname
> IFLA_SOMETHING_ELSE_LIST (nest)
> IFLA_SOMETHING_ELSE_OP add
> ...
> IFLA_SOMETHING_ELSE_OP del
> ...
> IFLA_SOMETHING_ELSE_OP add
> ...
>
> I don't know what to think about it. Rollbacks are going to be pure hell :/
I don't see a huge problem with the above. We need a way to solve this
anyways for other list types in the future correct ?.
The approach taken by this series will not scale if we have to add a
new msg type and header for every such list attribute in the future.
A good parallel here is bridge vlan which uses RTM_SETLINK and
RTM_DELLINK for vlan add and deletes. But it does have an advantage of
a separate
msg space under AF_BRIDGE which makes it cleaner. Maybe something
closer to that can be made to work (possibly with a msg flag) ?.
Would be good to have a consistent way to update list attributes for
future needs too.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-27 15:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-19 11:00 [patch net-next rfc 0/7] net: introduce alternative names for network interfaces Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 1/7] net: procfs: use index hashlist instead of name hashlist Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 2/7] net: introduce name_node struct to be used in hashlist Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 16:29 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-19 19:17 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 20:26 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-20 7:15 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-09-13 9:52 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-08 4:34 ` kbuild test robot
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 3/7] net: rtnetlink: add commands to add and delete alternative ifnames Jiri Pirko
2019-07-20 3:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-07-20 7:20 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-09 4:11 ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-09 6:25 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-09 15:40 ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-09 15:46 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-10 13:46 ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-10 15:50 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-10 19:39 ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-11 22:10 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-12 15:21 ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-12 15:43 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-09 16:14 ` David Ahern
2019-08-10 6:30 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-12 1:34 ` David Ahern
2019-08-12 1:37 ` David Ahern
2019-08-12 8:31 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-12 15:13 ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-12 21:43 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-08-13 0:29 ` David Ahern
2019-08-13 6:53 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-13 6:51 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-12 15:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-08-12 16:23 ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-13 6:55 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-12 16:01 ` David Ahern
2019-08-13 6:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-26 16:09 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-26 16:55 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-08-26 21:46 ` David Ahern
2019-08-26 22:15 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-08-26 22:18 ` David Miller
2019-08-26 22:24 ` David Ahern
2019-08-26 22:25 ` David Miller
2019-08-27 0:17 ` David Ahern
2019-08-27 5:09 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-27 7:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-27 8:22 ` David Miller
2019-08-27 9:35 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-27 15:14 ` Roopa Prabhu [this message]
2019-08-28 7:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-29 4:36 ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-29 5:26 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-30 14:35 ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-30 14:47 ` David Ahern
2019-08-30 17:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-30 14:49 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-30 17:03 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-09-12 11:59 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-09-13 8:21 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-09-13 14:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-27 4:55 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-27 13:43 ` David Ahern
2019-08-10 6:32 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 4/7] net: rtnetlink: put alternative names to getlink message Jiri Pirko
2019-07-20 3:59 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-07-20 7:17 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 5/7] net: rtnetlink: unify the code in __rtnl_newlink get dev with the rest Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 6/7] net: rtnetlink: introduce helper to get net_device instance by ifname Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 7/7] net: rtnetlink: add possibility to use alternative names as message handle Jiri Pirko
2019-07-20 3:59 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-07-20 7:22 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:03 ` [patch iproute2 rfc 1/2] ip: add support for alternative name addition/deletion/list Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:03 ` [patch iproute2 rfc 2/2] ip: allow to use alternative names as handle Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 16:31 ` [patch net-next rfc 0/7] net: introduce alternative names for network interfaces Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-19 19:16 ` Jiri Pirko
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