Action: OpenBMC community messaging survey

Action: OpenBMC community messaging survey

[krtaylor]

Hello everyone,

I am doing a survey. If you DO NOT use IRC, would you start 
communicating regularly with the community if we used a different 
messaging platform? Maybe some other reason?

I am not suggesting anything at the moment, just looking at ways to 
remove any communication barriers and improve open designs and development.

If you DO NOT USE IRC regularly, please follow this link for a short 
survey. It is completely anonymous and will remain open until 12:00pm 
Central, Monday September 28th.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/33BVDR6

THANKS!

Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)

Re: Action: OpenBMC community messaging survey

[Joseph Reynolds]

On 9/23/20 2:48 PM, krtaylor wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am doing a survey. If you DO NOT use IRC, would you start 
> communicating regularly with the community if we used a different 
> messaging platform? Maybe some other reason?
>
> I am not suggesting anything at the moment, just looking at ways to 
> remove any communication barriers and improve open designs and 
> development.
>
> If you DO NOT USE IRC regularly, please follow this link for a short 
> survey. It is completely anonymous and will remain open until 12:00pm 
> Central, Monday September 28th.

Hi Kurt.  Thanks for trying to improve communication within the OpenBMC 
community.

I was confused by the survey and did not submit my answers.  I use the 
IRC (per [1]) but sometimes go days without reading, and rarely 
respond.  I find IRC setup confusing, but easy enough to use.  And I 
would prefer to use slack features such as a full conversation history 
and threaded conversations.

- Joseph

[1]: https://github.com/openbmc/openbmc#contact

> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/33BVDR6
>
> THANKS!
>
> Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)

Re: Action: OpenBMC community messaging survey

[krtaylor]

On 9/23/20 9:58 PM, Joseph Reynolds wrote:
> On 9/23/20 2:48 PM, krtaylor wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am doing a survey. If you DO NOT use IRC, would you start 
>> communicating regularly with the community if we used a different 
>> messaging platform? Maybe some other reason?
>>
>> I am not suggesting anything at the moment, just looking at ways to 
>> remove any communication barriers and improve open designs and 
>> development.
>>
>> If you DO NOT USE IRC regularly, please follow this link for a short 
>> survey. It is completely anonymous and will remain open until 12:00pm 
>> Central, Monday September 28th.
> 
> Hi Kurt.  Thanks for trying to improve communication within the OpenBMC 
> community.
> 
> I was confused by the survey and did not submit my answers.  I use the 
> IRC (per [1]) but sometimes go days without reading, and rarely 

Thanks for the question - I could have been more clear about "regular 
use", and in the survey I do say that a bit better.

 From your description, I would say that you are not a regular user of 
IRC. That is, you do your work without periodically discussing it in 
IRC, and are not actively participating in others work and design 
discussions. Absolutely no judgement here, this is a common situation 
that we can hopefully address and facilitate for other developers.

Please feel free to take the survey, the feedback will be very much 
appreciated.

Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)

> respond.  I find IRC setup confusing, but easy enough to use.  And I 
> would prefer to use slack features such as a full conversation history 
> and threaded conversations.
> 
> - Joseph
> 
> [1]: https://github.com/openbmc/openbmc#contact
> 
>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/33BVDR6
>>
>> THANKS!
>>
>> Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
> 

Re: Action: OpenBMC community messaging survey

[Matthew Singer]

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Hi Kurt,

I had similar feelings about the survey, it didn't quite capture my
sentiment.  For me, it's more that I have set up IRC, but the OpenBMC
project is my only use case for IRC.  With so many communication channels,
IRC seems to fall to the background.  It's also hard to review past
activity in IRC, other tools like slack make it much easier to look at
threads retrospectively.

Thanks!


On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 6:45 AM krtaylor <kurt.r.taylor@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/23/20 9:58 PM, Joseph Reynolds wrote:
> > On 9/23/20 2:48 PM, krtaylor wrote:
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> I am doing a survey. If you DO NOT use IRC, would you start
> >> communicating regularly with the community if we used a different
> >> messaging platform? Maybe some other reason?
> >>
> >> I am not suggesting anything at the moment, just looking at ways to
> >> remove any communication barriers and improve open designs and
> >> development.
> >>
> >> If you DO NOT USE IRC regularly, please follow this link for a short
> >> survey. It is completely anonymous and will remain open until 12:00pm
> >> Central, Monday September 28th.
> >
> > Hi Kurt.  Thanks for trying to improve communication within the OpenBMC
> > community.
> >
> > I was confused by the survey and did not submit my answers.  I use the
> > IRC (per [1]) but sometimes go days without reading, and rarely
>
> Thanks for the question - I could have been more clear about "regular
> use", and in the survey I do say that a bit better.
>
>  From your description, I would say that you are not a regular user of
> IRC. That is, you do your work without periodically discussing it in
> IRC, and are not actively participating in others work and design
> discussions. Absolutely no judgement here, this is a common situation
> that we can hopefully address and facilitate for other developers.
>
> Please feel free to take the survey, the feedback will be very much
> appreciated.
>
> Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
>
> > respond.  I find IRC setup confusing, but easy enough to use.  And I
> > would prefer to use slack features such as a full conversation history
> > and threaded conversations.
> >
> > - Joseph
> >
> > [1]: https://github.com/openbmc/openbmc#contact
> >
> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/33BVDR6
> >>
> >> THANKS!
> >>
> >> Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
> >
>
>

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Re: Action: OpenBMC community messaging survey

[Johnathan Mantey]

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Kurt,

I occasionally watch the IRC channel, and I am not a particularly
competent user.
Things I like about continuing to use IRC vs "service z"

 1. IRC is not proprietary
 2. IRC can be accessed using a client of your choosing
 3. I like that it isn't logged. People may be more willing to allow
    their personality to be on display.
 4. IRC permits private side-bands for private conversations.
 5. My experience with IRC is when I need assistance with infrastructure
    issues the key person/people have been readily available. That
    may/may not translate to "service z". In addition, do we really need
    to permanently record "The CI server doesn't seem to be working." ?
 6. IRC doesn't collect data about me.
 7. Freenode could disappear tomorrow, and the community would not be
    impacted for long.

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Johnathan Mantey
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Contributing to Technology Innovation since 1992
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