From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.a@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, gleb@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com,
hutao@cn.fujitsu.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, vrozenfe@redhat.com,
pbonzini@redhat.com, afaerber@suse.de, kraxel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.6 V2 0/2] pvpanic: Separate pvpanic from machine type
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:53:41 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52090505.1010802@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1376233843-19410-1-git-send-email-marcel.a@redhat.com>
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On 08/11/2013 09:10 AM, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
> Creating the pvpanic device as part of the machine type has the
> potential to trigger guest OS, guest firmware and driver bugs.
> The potential of such was originally viewed as minimal.
> However, since releasing 1.5 with pvpanic as part
> of the builtin machine type, several issues were observed
> in the field:
> - Some Windows versions triggered 'New Hardware Wizard' and
> an unidentified device appeared in Device Manager.
> - Issue reported off list: on Linux >= 3.10
> the pvpanic driver breaks the reset on crash option:
> VM stops instead of being reset.
>
> pvpanic device also changes monitor command behaviour in some cases,
> such silent incompatible changes aren't expected by management tools:
> - Monitor command requires 'cont' before 'system_reset'
> in order to restart the VM after kernel panic/BSOD
>
> Note that libvirt is the main user and libvirt people indicated their
> preference to creating device with -device pvpanic rather than a
> built-in one that can't be removed.
>
> These issues were raised at last KVM call. The agreement reached
> there was that we were a bit too rash to make the device
> a builtin, and that for 1.6 we should drop the pvpanic device from the
> default machine type, instead teach management tools to add it by
> default using -device pvpanic.
> It's not clear whether changing 1.5 behaviour at this point
> is a sane thing, so this patchset doesn't touch 1.5 machine type.
Thanks for doing this; it makes sense to get this in for 1.6. From the
libvirt point of view:
Series: Reviewed-by: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-12 15:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-11 15:10 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.6 V2 0/2] pvpanic: Separate pvpanic from machine type Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-08-11 15:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.6 V2 1/2] hw/misc: don't create pvpanic device by default Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-08-12 3:06 ` Hu Tao
2013-08-12 15:59 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-13 11:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-08-11 15:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.6 V2 2/2] hw/misc: make pvpanic known to user Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-08-12 3:07 ` Hu Tao
2013-08-12 15:53 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2013-08-12 16:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.6 V2 0/2] pvpanic: Separate pvpanic from machine type Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-08-14 7:02 ` Ronen Hod
2013-08-21 8:03 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-08-21 8:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-21 9:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-21 9:56 ` Hu Tao
2013-08-21 9:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-21 10:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-21 10:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-14 16:27 ` Anthony Liguori
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