[Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Miguel Ojeda]

Hi all,

As discussed in the previous meeting, let's have one meeting focused
on having a re-review of the code for the RFC.

We have a fair amount of new code coming in and I am preparing a few
things too, but it should still be fine by the original schedule [1],
so I propose Saturday 27th or Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC like last time
(EU evening / US afternoon).

If all goes well, we should be able to send the RFC soon after -rc5.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/CANiq72knSgMU30A2ALaJGY5FWumPKU18ThvfjR1t14_77kYLrQ@mail.gmail.com/

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Alex Gaynor]

I will hopefully be able to make that -- the 27th is unusually busy
for a pandemic day for me :-)

Alex

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:40 PM Miguel Ojeda
<miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> As discussed in the previous meeting, let's have one meeting focused
> on having a re-review of the code for the RFC.
>
> We have a fair amount of new code coming in and I am preparing a few
> things too, but it should still be fine by the original schedule [1],
> so I propose Saturday 27th or Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC like last time
> (EU evening / US afternoon).
>
> If all goes well, we should be able to send the RFC soon after -rc5.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/CANiq72knSgMU30A2ALaJGY5FWumPKU18ThvfjR1t14_77kYLrQ@mail.gmail.com/
>
> Cheers,
> Miguel



-- 
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Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Geert Stappers]

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:57:53PM -0400, Alex Gaynor wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:40 PM Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > As discussed in the previous meeting, let's have one meeting focused
> > on having a re-review of the code for the RFC.

Not sure what kind of a meeting, but my intention is to attent
and just listen.  Hear what real programmers talk about.


> > We have a fair amount of new code coming in and I am preparing a few
> > things too, but it should still be fine by the original schedule [1],
> > so I propose Saturday 27th or Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC like last time
> > (EU evening / US afternoon).
> >
> > If all goes well, we should be able to send the RFC soon after -rc5.
> 
> I will hopefully be able to make that -- the 27th is unusually busy
> for a pandemic day for me :-)


Both 2021-03-27 [2]  and 2021-03-28 are fine for me.


Regards
Geert Stappers

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/CANiq72knSgMU30A2ALaJGY5FWumPKU18ThvfjR1t14_77kYLrQ@mail.gmail.com/
[2] https://xkcd.com/1179/  Oops 2013-02-27  was in Februari eight years ago
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Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Miguel Ojeda]

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 4:14 PM Miguel Ojeda
<miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> so I propose Saturday 27th or Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC like last time

Let's do it Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC then.

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Geert Stappers]

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 01:41:15PM +0100, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 4:14 PM Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> >
> > so I propose Saturday 27th or Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC like last time
> 
> Let's do it Sunday 28th at 18:00 UTC then.

Okay.

Where?



Groeten
Geert Stappers
-- 
Silence is hard to parse

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Miguel Ojeda]

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:12 PM Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> wrote:
>
> Okay.
>
> Where?

We use Google Meet -- I will share the link privately.

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Kaviraj Kanagaraj]

Hi Miguel

Are people in this mailing list invited? Can you share the link here? I would like to join as well :)

Thanks 
Kaviraj

> On 25-Mar-2021, at 09:17, Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:12 PM Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> Okay.
>> 
>> Where?
> 
> We use Google Meet -- I will share the link privately.
> 
> Cheers,
> Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Miguel Ojeda]

Hi Kaviraj,

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:02 AM Kaviraj Kanagaraj
<kavirajkanagaraj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are people in this mailing list invited? Can you share the link here? I would like to join as well :)

Yes, of course, everyone that wants to join is invited. The link is
shared privately to avoid anonymous/unknown/bot joins, but that's
about it.

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Geert Stappers]

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On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:25:11AM +0100, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:02 AM Kaviraj Kanagaraj wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 09:16:33AM +0100, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:12 PM Geert Stappers wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Rust for Linux Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC
> > > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Okay.
> > > >
> > > > Where?
> > > 
> > > We use Google Meet -- I will share the link privately.
> > > 
> > 
> > Are people in this mailing list invited?
> > Can you share the link here? I would like to join as well :)
> > 
> 
> Yes, of course, everyone that wants to join is invited.
> The link is shared privately to avoid anonymous/unknown/bot joins,
> but that's about it.


When to expect the invite? (When to start worrying "no invite for me???" ;-)


Are people without a Google account also welcome?

Will the invite like "Dear citizen of Troy, we made a beatifull horse
for you. Come to our site to download it." as a Microsoft Team invite?



Groeten
Geert Stappers
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Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Joshua Abraham]

Hi Miguel,

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 3:17 AM Miguel Ojeda
<miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We use Google Meet -- I will share the link privately.

I would also like to attend please. Thanks!

-- 
Respectfully,
Josh Abraham

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Miguel Ojeda]

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 12:49 PM Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> wrote:
>
> When to expect the invite? (When to start worrying "no invite for me???" ;-)

I'm creating the event now.

> Are people without a Google account also welcome?

I am not sure if it works without signing in. Please have a dummy
account ready just in case.

> Will the invite like "Dear citizen of Troy, we made a beatifull horse
> for you. Come to our site to download it." as a Microsoft Team invite?

No extra software needed, only a browser (Chrome, Firefox, Edge...).

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Miguel Ojeda]

Hi all,

Thanks all for joining!

Kaviraj: my apologies -- when someone new joins we do a round of
introductions at the beginning of the meeting, but this time we did it
at the end (but you had already left). If you join next meeting, I
will make sure we do the introductions first! :-)

Updated schedule:

  - We are still targeting the 5th for the RFC. We can delay a week if
we feel it is needed.

  - We will be adding a few things to the RFC:
    + Some of the PRs in the queue.
    + ppc64le support.
    + Binder & a couple rust/kernel/ pieces for it.
      * This does not necessarily mean Binder will go in the merge
window -- it is more to show in the RFC how an actual working module
looks like.
    + Move/split of "Rust example".
    + Kernel docs to be uploaded.
    + Unstable feature list to be updated.

Other topics & news discussed:

  - Wedson joined as a maintainer!

  - RFC:
    + The patches' split (preparation, Rust support, Binder).
    + Attribution, git-blame, kernel process, etc.

  - `alloc`:
    + We will likely end up with our own equivalent in the kernel, but
this is medium-term. For the RFC and likely for the merge, we go with
`alloc`.
    + Ideally, this work could inform the Rust allocator WG!

  - Locking: enforcing correct order/patterns (or at least disallowing
known-incorrect ones) via the type system or extra annotations.

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Call Sunday 2021-03-28 18:00 UTC

[Kaviraj Kanagaraj]

Hi Miguel!

No problems :) We can do introductions next time :)
It was really nice meeting you all :)

Thanks
Kaviraj 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28-Mar-2021, at 22:20, Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks all for joining!
> 
> Kaviraj: my apologies -- when someone new joins we do a round of
> introductions at the beginning of the meeting, but this time we did it
> at the end (but you had already left). If you join next meeting, I
> will make sure we do the introductions first! :-)
> 
> Updated schedule:
> 
>  - We are still targeting the 5th for the RFC. We can delay a week if
> we feel it is needed.
> 
>  - We will be adding a few things to the RFC:
>    + Some of the PRs in the queue.
>    + ppc64le support.
>    + Binder & a couple rust/kernel/ pieces for it.
>      * This does not necessarily mean Binder will go in the merge
> window -- it is more to show in the RFC how an actual working module
> looks like.
>    + Move/split of "Rust example".
>    + Kernel docs to be uploaded.
>    + Unstable feature list to be updated.
> 
> Other topics & news discussed:
> 
>  - Wedson joined as a maintainer!
> 
>  - RFC:
>    + The patches' split (preparation, Rust support, Binder).
>    + Attribution, git-blame, kernel process, etc.
> 
>  - `alloc`:
>    + We will likely end up with our own equivalent in the kernel, but
> this is medium-term. For the RFC and likely for the merge, we go with
> `alloc`.
>    + Ideally, this work could inform the Rust allocator WG!
> 
>  - Locking: enforcing correct order/patterns (or at least disallowing
> known-incorrect ones) via the type system or extra annotations.
> 
> Cheers,
> Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Sumera Priyadarsini]

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 5:30 PM Miguel Ojeda
<miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Sumera,
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 12:53 PM Sumera Priyadarsini
> <sylphrenadin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Miguel!
> >
> > I recently came across this project and joined the mailing list. I am very new to rust, and (less new) to kernel programming but would still like to be contribute and be part of this, if there are any beginner issues.
>
> https://github.com/Rust-for-Linux/linux/issues/90 is possibly a good
> one to start :)
>

Awesome, I will check it out!

>
> > I was also wondering who this meeting is for and if it's okay for me to join in.
>
> It is usually a handful of us that are involved with the project in
> one way or another, but you are welcome to join!

That sounds great, thanks!

- Sumera
>
> Cheers,
> Miguelv

Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Miguel Ojeda]

Hi all,

Thanks a lot Finn for managing to do it this weekend!

Saturday 18:00 UTC (today! :-) is it then!

See you later,

Cheers,
Miguel

On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:23 AM Finn Behrens <finn@kloenk.dev> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would prefer Saturday 18:00 UTC.
> I als got my schedule a bit cleaned up, so not a problem anymore.
>
> Cheers,
> Finn
>
> > On 6. Mar 2021, at 10:15, Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It looks like everyone that replied can do it both days, with Finn
> > having some time constraints.
> >
> > Finn, how is your weekend shaping up? Would picking one of the two
> > days help you a bit with your schedule?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Miguel
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:40 AM Finn Behrens <finn@kloenk.dev> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Miguel,
> >>
> >> I would prefer the following weekend (13th, 14th), as this weekend is rather full at my end. But if needed, I could probably also manage this weekend.
> >> 18:00 UTC sounds like a good time for me.
> >>
> >> CU,
> >> Finn

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Finn Behrens]

Hi,

I would prefer Saturday 18:00 UTC.
I als got my schedule a bit cleaned up, so not a problem anymore.

Cheers,
Finn

> On 6. Mar 2021, at 10:15, Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> It looks like everyone that replied can do it both days, with Finn
> having some time constraints.
> 
> Finn, how is your weekend shaping up? Would picking one of the two
> days help you a bit with your schedule?
> 
> Cheers,
> Miguel
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:40 AM Finn Behrens <finn@kloenk.dev> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Miguel,
>> 
>> I would prefer the following weekend (13th, 14th), as this weekend is rather full at my end. But if needed, I could probably also manage this weekend.
>> 18:00 UTC sounds like a good time for me.
>> 
>> CU,
>> Finn

Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Miguel Ojeda]

Hi all,

It looks like everyone that replied can do it both days, with Finn
having some time constraints.

Finn, how is your weekend shaping up? Would picking one of the two
days help you a bit with your schedule?

Cheers,
Miguel



On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:40 AM Finn Behrens <finn@kloenk.dev> wrote:
>
> Hi Miguel,
>
> I would prefer the following weekend (13th, 14th), as this weekend is rather full at my end. But if needed, I could probably also manage this weekend.
> 18:00 UTC sounds like a good time for me.
>
> CU,
> Finn

Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Josh Triplett]

On March 3, 2021 2:26:15 AM PST, Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>It has been about 2 months since the last call. We have a few bits to
>discuss regarding upstreaming, so I think it is a good time to have
>another informal call.
>
>Like last time, you are welcome to join even if you have been busy
>lately but still want to follow development. So don't worry about
>getting up to speed -- I'll give a quick briefing if needed.
>
>I propose next weekend Saturday 6th or Sunday 7th at 18:00 UTC like
>last time (EU evening / US afternoon).
>
>Please let me know which day you prefer, if any, and feel free to
>Cc/invite whoever you want!
>
>Cheers,
>Miguel

Either works for me.

Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Adam Bratschi-Kaye]

I can also do either day.

Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Wedson Almeida Filho]

Either work for me as well.

On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 17:41, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
>
> Either work for me! EOM
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 6:54 PM Miguel Ojeda
> <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It has been about 2 months since the last call. We have a few bits to
> > discuss regarding upstreaming, so I think it is a good time to have
> > another informal call.
> >
> > Like last time, you are welcome to join even if you have been busy
> > lately but still want to follow development. So don't worry about
> > getting up to speed -- I'll give a quick briefing if needed.
> >
> > I propose next weekend Saturday 6th or Sunday 7th at 18:00 UTC like
> > last time (EU evening / US afternoon).
> >
> > Please let me know which day you prefer, if any, and feel free to
> > Cc/invite whoever you want!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Miguel
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> ~Nick Desaulniers

Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Miguel Ojeda]

Hi Sumera,

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 12:53 PM Sumera Priyadarsini
<sylphrenadin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Miguel!
>
> I recently came across this project and joined the mailing list. I am very new to rust, and (less new) to kernel programming but would still like to be contribute and be part of this, if there are any beginner issues.

https://github.com/Rust-for-Linux/linux/issues/90 is possibly a good
one to start :)

> I was also wondering who this meeting is for and if it's okay for me to join in.

It is usually a handful of us that are involved with the project in
one way or another, but you are welcome to join!

Cheers,
Miguel

Re: [Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Nick Desaulniers]

Either work for me! EOM

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 6:54 PM Miguel Ojeda
<miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> It has been about 2 months since the last call. We have a few bits to
> discuss regarding upstreaming, so I think it is a good time to have
> another informal call.
>
> Like last time, you are welcome to join even if you have been busy
> lately but still want to follow development. So don't worry about
> getting up to speed -- I'll give a quick briefing if needed.
>
> I propose next weekend Saturday 6th or Sunday 7th at 18:00 UTC like
> last time (EU evening / US afternoon).
>
> Please let me know which day you prefer, if any, and feel free to
> Cc/invite whoever you want!
>
> Cheers,
> Miguel



-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

[Rust for Linux] Poll for call

[Miguel Ojeda]

Hi all,

It has been about 2 months since the last call. We have a few bits to
discuss regarding upstreaming, so I think it is a good time to have
another informal call.

Like last time, you are welcome to join even if you have been busy
lately but still want to follow development. So don't worry about
getting up to speed -- I'll give a quick briefing if needed.

I propose next weekend Saturday 6th or Sunday 7th at 18:00 UTC like
last time (EU evening / US afternoon).

Please let me know which day you prefer, if any, and feel free to
Cc/invite whoever you want!

Cheers,
Miguel