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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: Ping: [PATCH 0/5] x86: more power-efficient CPU parking
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 18:01:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0a2bdb90-fee3-895c-c40c-b4bfe03e5112@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5B86467B02000078001E2D9E@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 29/08/18 08:08, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 01.08.18 at 16:22,  wrote:
>> When putting CPUs to sleep permanently, we should try to put them into
>> the most power conserving state possible. For now it is unclear whether,
>> especially in a deep C-state, the P-state also matters, so this series only
>> arranges for the C-state side of things (plus some cleanup).
>>
>> 1: x86/cpuidle: replace a pointless NULL check
>> 2: x86/idle: re-arrange dead-idle handling
>> 3: x86/cpuidle: push parked CPUs into deeper sleep states when possible
>> 4: x86/cpuidle: clean up Cx dumping
>> 5: x86: place non-parked CPUs into wait-for-SIPI state after offlining

I don't have a problem in principle, but I'm afraid that you're going to
need either positive documentation, or a positive statement from Intel
and AMD that wait-for-SIPI is the most power efficient state to park a
CPU in.

At a guess, I'd expect that wait-for-SIPI isn't an optimised state
(because the vendors wouldn't expect hardware to be in this state after
boot), and from the various discussions around L1TF, there are
definitely differences between wait-for-SIPI and mwait.

~Andrew

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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-01 14:22 [PATCH 0/5] x86: more power-efficient CPU parking Jan Beulich
2018-08-01 14:31 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86/cpuidle: replace a pointless NULL check Jan Beulich
2018-08-01 14:33   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-01 15:12     ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-01 14:31 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86/idle: re-arrange dead-idle handling Jan Beulich
2018-09-07 17:08   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-09-10 10:13     ` Jan Beulich
2018-10-26 10:55       ` Ping: " Jan Beulich
2018-12-05 20:33       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-12-06  8:16         ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-01 14:32 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/cpuidle: push parked CPUs into deeper sleep states when possible Jan Beulich
2018-10-26 10:56   ` Ping: " Jan Beulich
2018-08-01 14:33 ` [PATCH 4/5] x86/cpuidle: clean up Cx dumping Jan Beulich
2018-08-01 14:40   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-08-01 14:33 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86: place non-parked CPUs into wait-for-SIPI state after offlining Jan Beulich
2018-08-29  7:08 ` Ping: [PATCH 0/5] x86: more power-efficient CPU parking Jan Beulich
2018-08-29 17:01   ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2018-08-30  7:29     ` Jan Beulich
     [not found] ` <5B61C21202000000000FC1F1@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]   ` <5B61C21202000078001F8805@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]     ` <5B61C21202000000000FC6BD@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]       ` <5B61C212020000780020B6D8@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]         ` <5B61C21202000000000FF27E@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]           ` <5B61C2120200007800224310@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-04-03 10:12             ` Jan Beulich
2019-04-03 11:14               ` Andrew Cooper
2019-04-03 12:43                 ` Jan Beulich
2019-04-03 14:44                   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-04-03 15:20                     ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]             ` <5B61C2120200000000101EDC@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]               ` <5B61C212020000780022FF0D@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-05-17 10:10                 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Jan Beulich
2019-05-17 10:10                   ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2019-05-17 10:11                   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] x86/idle: re-arrange dead-idle handling Jan Beulich
2019-05-17 10:11                     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2019-05-20 14:25                     ` Andrew Cooper
2019-05-20 14:25                       ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2019-05-17 10:12                   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] x86/cpuidle: push parked CPUs into deeper sleep states when possible Jan Beulich
2019-05-17 10:12                     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2019-05-17 10:12                   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] x86/cpuidle: clean up Cx dumping Jan Beulich
2019-05-17 10:12                     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich

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