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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Hongyan Xia <hx242@xen.org>
Cc: julien@xen.org, Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/16] xen/page_alloc: add a path for xenheap when there is no direct map
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:51:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1edc8d66-ca10-8e90-d8e8-2e299ef715d7@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <943480f695052163b540919c9c55655e5b4f741a.camel@xen.org>

On 28.04.2021 13:04, Hongyan Xia wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 14:31 +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> As I don't think we have many cases where code actually depends on
>> being able to apply __va() (or equivalent) to the address returned
>> from alloc_xenheap_pages(), I think this should instead involve
>> vmap(), with the vmap area drastically increased (perhaps taking all
>> of the space the direct map presently consumes). For any remaining
>> users of __va() or alike these should perhaps be converted into an
>> alias / derivation of vmap_to_{mfn,page}() then.
> 
> That's true, and this was my first implementation (and also Wei's
> original proposal) which worked okay. But, several problems got in the
> way.
> 
> 1. Partial unmap. Biggest offender is xmalloc which allocates and could
> then free part of it, which means we need to be able to partially unmap
> the region. vmap() does not support this.

If the direct map went fully away, and hence if Xen heap pages got
vmap()-ed, there's no reason to keep xmalloc() from forwarding to
vmalloc() instead of going this partial-unmap route.

> 2. Fast PA->VA. There is currently no way to go from PA to VA in
> vmapped pages, unless we somehow repurpose or add new fields in
> page_info. Also, VA->PA is possible but very slow now. There is not
> much PA->VA in the critical path but see 3.

There would better not be any PA->VA. Can you point out examples
where it would be hard to avoid using such? I also don't see the
connection to 3 - is EPT code using PA->VA a lot? p2m-ept.c does
not look to have a single use of __va() or ..._to_virt().

> 3. EPT. Mapping and unmapping EPT in HVM hypercalls and MMIO are so
> many and so slow that it is probably not possible to keep them as
> domheap pages due to the big performance drop after removing the direct
> map. If we move them to xenheap pages on vmap, then this depends on 2
> for page table walking.

See my proposal to defer unmapping of the domain's own pages
(and I would consider the p2m pages to be part of the domain's
ones for this purpose). In fact, since the p2m pages come from a
fixed, separate pool I wonder whether the entire pool couldn't
be mapped in e.g. the per-domain VA range.

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-28 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-30 20:44 [PATCH 00/16] Remove the direct map Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 01/16] x86/setup: move vm_init() before acpi calls Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 02/16] acpi: vmap pages in acpi_os_alloc_memory Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01 12:02   ` Wei Liu
2020-05-01 12:46     ` Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01 21:35   ` Julien Grall
2020-05-04  8:27     ` Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 03/16] x86/numa: vmap the pages for memnodemap Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 04/16] x86/srat: vmap the pages for acpi_slit Hongyan Xia
2020-11-30 10:16   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-30 18:11     ` Hongyan Xia
2020-12-01  7:37       ` Jan Beulich
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 05/16] x86: map/unmap pages in restore_all_guests Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 06/16] x86/pv: domheap pages should be mapped while relocating initrd Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 07/16] x86/pv: rewrite how building PV dom0 handles domheap mappings Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 08/16] x86: add Persistent Map (PMAP) infrastructure Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 09/16] x86: lift mapcache variable to the arch level Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 10/16] x86/mapcache: initialise the mapcache for the idle domain Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 11/16] x86: add a boot option to enable and disable the direct map Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01  8:43   ` Julien Grall
2020-05-01 12:11   ` Wei Liu
2020-05-01 12:59     ` Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01 13:11       ` Wei Liu
2020-05-01 15:59         ` Julien Grall
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 12/16] x86/domain_page: remove the fast paths when mfn is not in the directmap Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 13/16] xen/page_alloc: add a path for xenheap when there is no direct map Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01  8:50   ` Julien Grall
2021-04-22 12:31   ` Jan Beulich
2021-04-28 11:04     ` Hongyan Xia
2021-04-28 11:51       ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2021-04-28 13:22         ` Hongyan Xia
2021-04-28 13:55           ` Jan Beulich
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 14/16] x86/setup: leave early boot slightly earlier Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 15/16] x86/setup: vmap heap nodes when they are outside the direct map Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 16/16] x86/setup: do not create valid mappings when directmap=no Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01 12:07 ` [PATCH 00/16] Remove the direct map Wei Liu
2020-05-01 13:53   ` Hongyan Xia
2020-06-02  9:08     ` Wei Liu
2021-04-28 10:14       ` Hongyan Xia

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