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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Hongyan Xia <hx242@xen.org>
Cc: julien@xen.org, Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/16] xen/page_alloc: add a path for xenheap when there is no direct map
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 14:31:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1bd2c72-1310-f018-dda5-90521be03fe4@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32ae7c14babf7e78b60febb53095a74c5e865456.1588278317.git.hongyxia@amazon.com>

On 30.04.2020 22:44, Hongyan Xia wrote:
> From: Hongyan Xia <hongyxia@amazon.com>
> 
> When there is not an always-mapped direct map, xenheap allocations need
> to be mapped and unmapped on-demand.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Hongyan Xia <hongyxia@amazon.com>

This series has been left uncommented for far too long - I'm sorry.
While earlier patches here are probably reasonable (but would likely
need re-basing, so I'm not sure whether to try to get to look though
them before that makes much sense), I'd like to spell out that I'm
not really happy with the approach taken here: Simply re-introducing
a direct map entry for individual pages is not the way to go imo.
First and foremost this is rather wasteful in terms of resources (VA
space).

As I don't think we have many cases where code actually depends on
being able to apply __va() (or equivalent) to the address returned
from alloc_xenheap_pages(), I think this should instead involve
vmap(), with the vmap area drastically increased (perhaps taking all
of the space the direct map presently consumes). For any remaining
users of __va() or alike these should perhaps be converted into an
alias / derivation of vmap_to_{mfn,page}() then.

Since the goal of eliminating the direct map is to have unrelated
guests' memory not mapped when running a certain guest, it could
then be further considered to "overmap" what is being requested -
rather than just mapping the single 4k page, the containing 2M or 1G
one could be mapped (provided it all belongs to the running guest),
while unmapping could be deferred until the next context switch to a
different domain (or, if necessary, for 64-bit PV guests until the
next switch to guest user mode). Of course this takes as a prereq a
sufficiently low overhead means to establish whether the larger
containing page of a smaller one is all owned by the same domain.

Jan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-22 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-30 20:44 [PATCH 00/16] Remove the direct map Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 01/16] x86/setup: move vm_init() before acpi calls Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 02/16] acpi: vmap pages in acpi_os_alloc_memory Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01 12:02   ` Wei Liu
2020-05-01 12:46     ` Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01 21:35   ` Julien Grall
2020-05-04  8:27     ` Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 03/16] x86/numa: vmap the pages for memnodemap Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 04/16] x86/srat: vmap the pages for acpi_slit Hongyan Xia
2020-11-30 10:16   ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-30 18:11     ` Hongyan Xia
2020-12-01  7:37       ` Jan Beulich
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 05/16] x86: map/unmap pages in restore_all_guests Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 06/16] x86/pv: domheap pages should be mapped while relocating initrd Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 07/16] x86/pv: rewrite how building PV dom0 handles domheap mappings Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 08/16] x86: add Persistent Map (PMAP) infrastructure Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 09/16] x86: lift mapcache variable to the arch level Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 10/16] x86/mapcache: initialise the mapcache for the idle domain Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 11/16] x86: add a boot option to enable and disable the direct map Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01  8:43   ` Julien Grall
2020-05-01 12:11   ` Wei Liu
2020-05-01 12:59     ` Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01 13:11       ` Wei Liu
2020-05-01 15:59         ` Julien Grall
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 12/16] x86/domain_page: remove the fast paths when mfn is not in the directmap Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 13/16] xen/page_alloc: add a path for xenheap when there is no direct map Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01  8:50   ` Julien Grall
2021-04-22 12:31   ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2021-04-28 11:04     ` Hongyan Xia
2021-04-28 11:51       ` Jan Beulich
2021-04-28 13:22         ` Hongyan Xia
2021-04-28 13:55           ` Jan Beulich
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 14/16] x86/setup: leave early boot slightly earlier Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 15/16] x86/setup: vmap heap nodes when they are outside the direct map Hongyan Xia
2020-04-30 20:44 ` [PATCH 16/16] x86/setup: do not create valid mappings when directmap=no Hongyan Xia
2020-05-01 12:07 ` [PATCH 00/16] Remove the direct map Wei Liu
2020-05-01 13:53   ` Hongyan Xia
2020-06-02  9:08     ` Wei Liu
2021-04-28 10:14       ` Hongyan Xia

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