From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
StefanoStabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
mpohlack@amazon.de, ross.lagerwall@citrix.com,
Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@citrix.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>,
KeirFraser <keir@xen.org>,
sasha.levin@oracle.com
Subject: Re: REST MAINTAINERS feedback requested Was:Re: [PATCH v5 01/28] HYPERCALL_version_op. New hypercall mirroring XENVER_ but sane.
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 11:00:34 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <570BE64202000078000E6410@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22283.53216.174942.981878@mariner.uk.xensource.com>
>>> On 11.04.16 at 18:25, <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> Jan Beulich writes ("Re: REST MAINTAINERS feedback requested Was:Re:
> [Xen-devel] [PATCH v5 01/28] HYPERCALL_version_op. New hypercall mirroring
> XENVER_ but sane."):
>> On 11.04.16 at 16:22, <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>> > But to an extent some of this conversation seems to be on matters of
>> > taste.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> > Jan, what is the downside of introducing a new hypercall ?
>>
>> Duplicate code effectively doing the same thing.
>
> I agree that duplication is bad, all other things being equal.
>
> But any improvement from an old API to a new one necessarily involves
> providing a dual facility during a transition period.
Except that, at least for most sub-ops, the new one doesn't really
provide much advantage, and hence dealing with the lack of size
for those sub-ops where it matters within the existing hypercall
(perhaps by adding one or two new sub-ops) would limit duplication
quite a bit.
> I don't see an explicit deprecation in the patch that is in tree, but
> it seems to me to be intended (and, perhaps, implied). Certainly if
> we are going to permit these strings etc. to be bigger than fits in
> the old hypercall, the old hypercall needs to be deprecated on the
> grounds that it can provide incomplete or inaccurate information.
>
> Does this way of looking at it help ?
If that means you approve of the introduction of the new hypercall,
yes. After all the goal of this whole discussion is to determine
whether another maintainer is willing to provide a replacement ack
for the withdrawn one.
Jan
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2016-03-24 20:00 [PATCH v5] xSplice v1 design and implementation Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 01/28] HYPERCALL_version_op. New hypercall mirroring XENVER_ but sane Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 20:22 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-24 21:07 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 21:30 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-30 15:43 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-31 6:30 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-31 11:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-31 12:07 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-31 13:28 ` REST MAINTAINERS feedback requested Was:Re: " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-31 13:50 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 16:33 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 17:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 17:13 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 17:21 ` Wei Liu
2016-04-08 17:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 17:27 ` Wei Liu
2016-04-08 17:21 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-08 17:41 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-04-08 17:54 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-11 10:50 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-11 13:56 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-11 14:22 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-11 15:48 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-11 16:25 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-11 16:53 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-11 17:06 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-11 17:00 ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2016-04-11 17:13 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-11 17:34 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-11 17:46 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-12 9:58 ` George Dunlap
2016-04-12 13:56 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-12 14:38 ` George Dunlap
2016-04-12 15:00 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-12 15:26 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-13 4:21 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-13 16:07 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-14 15:13 ` George Dunlap
2016-04-14 15:59 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-14 16:19 ` George Dunlap
2016-04-14 17:01 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-14 18:11 ` REST MAINTAINERS feedback requested Was:Re: [PATCH v5 01/28] HYPERCALL_version_op. New hypercall mirroring XENVER_ but sane. [and 1 more messages] Ian Jackson
2016-04-14 19:22 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-17 7:23 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-15 11:23 ` REST MAINTAINERS feedback requested Was:Re: [PATCH v5 01/28] HYPERCALL_version_op. New hypercall mirroring XENVER_ but sane George Dunlap
2016-04-17 7:52 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-12 15:31 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-12 15:17 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-12 15:28 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 17:24 ` George Dunlap
2016-04-08 17:34 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 02/28] libxc/libxl/python/xenstat/ocaml: Use new XEN_VERSION hypercall Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 21:24 ` Wei Liu
2016-03-25 13:21 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 03/28] arm/x86: Use struct virtual_region to do bug, symbol, and (x86) exception tables lookup Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-30 16:09 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 04/28] vmap: Add vmalloc_cb and vfree_cb Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-30 16:24 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-30 16:44 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-31 6:46 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-31 11:49 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 05/28] xsplice: Design document Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-29 9:36 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-29 20:46 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 06/28] xen/xsplice: Hypervisor implementation of XEN_XSPLICE_op Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-31 9:45 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 07/28] libxc: Implementation of XEN_XSPLICE_op in libxc Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 08/28] xen-xsplice: Tool to manipulate xsplice payloads Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 09/28] xsplice: Add helper elf routines Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-31 12:03 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-06 1:38 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-07 0:38 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 10/28] xsplice: Implement payload loading Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-31 13:45 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-31 21:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-01 9:18 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-04 19:44 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 1:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 7:34 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-05 15:50 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 16:15 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-05 16:45 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 17:48 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-07 0:49 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-07 0:46 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 11/28] xsplice: Implement support for applying/reverting/replacing patches Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-01 13:28 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-01 21:04 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-04 7:07 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-07 3:05 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-07 15:38 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-09 14:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-11 15:38 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-07 3:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-07 15:43 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-10 2:36 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-10 2:45 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-11 15:41 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-11 23:29 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-10 19:47 ` Is: ARM maintainers advice ..Was:Re: " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-10 20:58 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-04-11 15:44 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-11 15:50 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-11 16:05 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 12/28] x86/xen_hello_world.xsplice: Test payload for patching 'xen_extra_version' Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-01 13:33 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-06 2:03 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-07 1:03 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 13/28] xsplice, symbols: Implement symbol name resolution on address Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-01 15:11 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-07 3:14 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-07 15:46 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 1:32 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 15:21 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 15:27 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 15:29 ` Jan Beulich
[not found] ` <5707D68A.8090006@citrix.com>
[not found] ` <5707FA8B02000078000E6178@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>
2016-04-11 8:07 ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 14/28] x86, xsplice: Print payload's symbol name and payload name in backtraces Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-01 15:23 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-06 2:39 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-07 1:07 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 15/28] xsplice: Add .xsplice.hooks functions and test-case Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-01 15:50 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-06 2:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-06 6:39 ` Martin Pohlack
2016-04-07 1:15 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 15:57 ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-04-08 17:39 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-11 8:23 ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-04-22 13:33 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-22 13:58 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-22 17:32 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-07 1:11 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 16/28] xsplice: Add support for bug frames Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-01 16:00 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 17/28] xsplice: Add support for exception tables Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-01 16:06 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-06 14:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-06 15:32 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-04-07 1:21 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 18/28] xsplice: Add support for alternatives Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-01 16:20 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-07 3:11 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 19/28] build_id: Provide ld-embedded build-ids Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-04 12:46 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-07 2:58 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 15:49 ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-04-08 18:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 18:54 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-04-08 19:54 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 0:18 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 1:52 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 15:27 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 17:06 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 17:44 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 19:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 19:39 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 20:14 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 20:50 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 21:11 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 21:15 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 15:25 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 20/28] HYPERCALL_version_op: Add VERSION_build_id to retrieve build-id Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-25 16:26 ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-04-04 13:35 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 21/28] libxl: info: Display build_id of the hypervisor using XEN_VERSION_build_id Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-25 13:25 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-25 15:27 ` Wei Liu
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 22/28] xsplice: Print build_id in keyhandler and on bootup Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-04 13:38 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 23/28] xsplice: Stacking build-id dependency checking Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-04 15:00 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-04 20:01 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-05 7:43 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-08 16:15 ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-04-08 17:47 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-06 20:05 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-07 1:24 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 24/28] xsplice/xen_replace_world: Test-case for XSPLICE_ACTION_REPLACE Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 25/28] xsplice: Print dependency and payloads build_id in the keyhandler Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-04 15:03 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 26/28] xsplice: Prevent duplicate payloads from being loaded Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-04 15:06 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-04 19:52 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 27/28] xsplice: Add support for shadow variables Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-04 15:18 ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-06 2:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-08 15:58 ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-03-24 20:00 ` [PATCH v5 28/28] MAINTAINERS/xsplice: Add myself and Ross as the maintainers Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
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