Do people want a Developer Meeting on Aug 24th (before Dev Summit)

Do people want a Developer Meeting on Aug 24th (before Dev Summit)

[Lars Kurth]

Folks,

do you guys want to hold a Developer Meeting on Aug 24th (before Dev Summit). I do have space to do this, but last year's was very poorly attended. If you could get back to me with an opinion, that would help hugely. Alternatively it would also be possible to use the space for more focused meetings with fewer people. In that case, I would need a number of suggestions for meetings including meeting leaders.

Please have a look at the schedule http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/xen-project-developer-summit/program/schedule ... note that on the 26th, I kept the 2nd room free and was planning to use the Hackathon format in parallel to the talks in the main program. rather than having BoFs interspersed with talks. Some of the slots could be used to host the developer meeting, of desired.

Regards
Lars
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Re: Do people want a Developer Meeting on Aug 24th (before Dev Summit)

[George Dunlap]

On 23/06/16 12:33, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> do you guys want to hold a Developer Meeting on Aug 24th (before Dev Summit). I do have space to do this, but last year's was very poorly attended. If you could get back to me with an opinion, that would help hugely. Alternatively it would also be possible to use the space for more focused meetings with fewer people. In that case, I would need a number of suggestions for meetings including meeting leaders.
> 
> Please have a look at the schedule http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/xen-project-developer-summit/program/schedule ... note that on the 26th, I kept the 2nd room free and was planning to use the Hackathon format in parallel to the talks in the main program. rather than having BoFs interspersed with talks. Some of the slots could be used to host the developer meeting, of desired.

So to a large degree, the actual nuts-and-bolts planning which that
meeting was meant to cover happens now at the "hackathons" instead.
It's important I think, however, for the XenSummit to have a venue for
people in the industry who may not know about the Hackathons (or for
whatever reason can't come to them) to raise issues with the core
developers and have them discussed.

If the parallel track could actually fulfill that role, then I think it
would be enough; the key would be making sure that the appropriate
attention could be attracted.

 -George

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Re: Do people want a Developer Meeting on Aug 24th (before Dev Summit)

[Lars Kurth]

> On 23 Jun 2016, at 12:39, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
> On 23/06/16 12:33, Lars Kurth wrote:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> do you guys want to hold a Developer Meeting on Aug 24th (before Dev Summit). I do have space to do this, but last year's was very poorly attended. If you could get back to me with an opinion, that would help hugely. Alternatively it would also be possible to use the space for more focused meetings with fewer people. In that case, I would need a number of suggestions for meetings including meeting leaders.
>> 
>> Please have a look at the schedule http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/xen-project-developer-summit/program/schedule ... note that on the 26th, I kept the 2nd room free and was planning to use the Hackathon format in parallel to the talks in the main program. rather than having BoFs interspersed with talks. Some of the slots could be used to host the developer meeting, of desired.
> 
> So to a large degree, the actual nuts-and-bolts planning which that
> meeting was meant to cover happens now at the "hackathons" instead.
> It's important I think, however, for the XenSummit to have a venue for
> people in the industry who may not know about the Hackathons (or for
> whatever reason can't come to them) to raise issues with the core
> developers and have them discussed.
> 
> If the parallel track could actually fulfill that role, then I think it
> would be enough; the key would be making sure that the appropriate
> attention could be attracted.

That's why I asked. Maybe we can come up with a short list of topics that need to be discussed and are worthwhile for the developer meetings. 

The idea behind using the Hackathon scheduling methodology for the parallel track is an experiment to make assigning of topics to space mor effective than in the past.

I don't have an opinion one way or another. We can have a developer meeting as well. Just shout and I will set it up.

Lars
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Re: Do people want a Developer Meeting on Aug 24th (before Dev Summit)

[Neil Sikka]

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Hey guys, is anything happening today regarding a meeting or going out for
lunch if people arrive a day early?

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> > On 23 Jun 2016, at 12:39, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 23/06/16 12:33, Lars Kurth wrote:
> >> Folks,
> >>
> >> do you guys want to hold a Developer Meeting on Aug 24th (before Dev
> Summit). I do have space to do this, but last year's was very poorly
> attended. If you could get back to me with an opinion, that would help
> hugely. Alternatively it would also be possible to use the space for more
> focused meetings with fewer people. In that case, I would need a number of
> suggestions for meetings including meeting leaders.
> >>
> >> Please have a look at the schedule http://events.linuxfoundation.
> org/events/xen-project-developer-summit/program/schedule ... note that on
> the 26th, I kept the 2nd room free and was planning to use the Hackathon
> format in parallel to the talks in the main program. rather than having
> BoFs interspersed with talks. Some of the slots could be used to host the
> developer meeting, of desired.
> >
> > So to a large degree, the actual nuts-and-bolts planning which that
> > meeting was meant to cover happens now at the "hackathons" instead.
> > It's important I think, however, for the XenSummit to have a venue for
> > people in the industry who may not know about the Hackathons (or for
> > whatever reason can't come to them) to raise issues with the core
> > developers and have them discussed.
> >
> > If the parallel track could actually fulfill that role, then I think it
> > would be enough; the key would be making sure that the appropriate
> > attention could be attracted.
>
> That's why I asked. Maybe we can come up with a short list of topics that
> need to be discussed and are worthwhile for the developer meetings.
>
> The idea behind using the Hackathon scheduling methodology for the
> parallel track is an experiment to make assigning of topics to space mor
> effective than in the past.
>
> I don't have an opinion one way or another. We can have a developer
> meeting as well. Just shout and I will set it up.
>
> Lars
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Re: Do people want a Developer Meeting on Aug 24th (before Dev Summit)

[Wei Liu]

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:33:00PM +0100, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> do you guys want to hold a Developer Meeting on Aug 24th (before Dev
> Summit). I do have space to do this, but last year's was very poorly
> attended. If you could get back to me with an opinion, that would help
> hugely. Alternatively it would also be possible to use the space for
> more focused meetings with fewer people. In that case, I would need a
> number of suggestions for meetings including meeting leaders.
> 
> Please have a look at the schedule
> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/xen-project-developer-summit/program/schedule
> ... note that on the 26th, I kept the 2nd room free and was planning
> to use the Hackathon format in parallel to the talks in the main
> program. rather than having BoFs interspersed with talks. Some of the
> slots could be used to host the developer meeting, of desired.
> 

Last year's meeting didn't attract many attendees but we did have
important f2f discussions regarding release cycle, planning for certain
features etc. I think overall it was quite useful. The number of
attendees is not the mostly important metric imho.

Ultimately my goal is to make sure we  allocate some time for face to
face conversation.  I think having the unconference sessions are
probably fine. As George said, the key is to attract appropriate
attention.

Wei.

> Regards Lars

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